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I should add, I still worry about my ankle and have to take it slow but that's ok. It was more my back I was concerned about and Matt showed me how to trust it.

Agreed. That one session was worth years of home training. Increases all round tonight, low numbers but increases none the less I'll definitely see Matt again for checkups so to speak.

Increases all round tonight, will be interesting to see how I pull up and if I consolidate on Friday. Finally into triple squat figures. The more I do the more I prefer low bar. Squat 80.5 85.5 90.5 95.5 100 Bench 101.5 104 106.5 109 111.5 DL barefoot 88 93 97.5 101.5 104 Row grip giving out on this 73 78 83 88 93 Chins 7.5 10 12.5 15 17.5 Dips 15 17.5 20 22.5 25

Very impressive stuff.

Honestly don't think that was a dig at you Leesh. You're a beginner (me too!) doing most things right I'd say, maybe just impatient

I hear you man. And shit, 120kg is still heavy for me. FOREVER SQUAT DODGER Sidebar: Just ate a snickers, back to normal now. Alf Stewart has gone home. Time for Gym.

What's the real issue then? I'm just pointing out how things get convoluted so easily. In one breath in the post I linked, you say BW is no excuse. The next, it's the measure of choice, but only when convenient? Jesse, your lightest lifer, went 180kg at 67kg you said, and because BW is no excuse, we should all be treating that as no different to 120kg guy going 180? Of course not, it makes no sense does it. BW has to be a factor. That 60kg girl went 120, which in my head IS actually pretty damn good because it's 2x BW, but then "Firstly Dan. A 120kg squat is only impressive if your female and weigh under 60kg". So at 65kg, it's now crap and BW is no excuse? Or 65 is ok but 70isn't? What's your actual view then? BW is either a factor or it's not. Either 180kg squat is good or it's not pure and simple (BW means nothing) OR it's good depending on your BW, which then goes against what you said earlier about BW not being an excuse. I get that you want to clear up confusion, but I'm pointing out that in some instances you are helping create it. Which is why some people might feel like the goal posts move around a bit too much. I think I get you and I'm very confident that if I was in there training with you, it would be crystal clear and I would be a beast, my point is how easy it is for people to get confused when you yourself, a clear expert in the field, can quit easily, at least on a forum, come off as contradicting your own views. You can have the last say though, I've ranted far too much about not much. Sorry dudes and dudettes.

The good members of the community will always support people that make valid contributions, regardless of what you do and don't know or what you drive.

I didn't say 120 is impressive, that was my point. You said BW wasn't an excuse ergo a reason for anything, so why would it make a 120kg squat impressive, that was my point. BW either is or is not a factor, you can't have it both ways. Or I suppose you can, you can do whatever you want, just don't be surprised when people get confused. I've said before, I fully subscribe to and agree with your views, approach, training methods, but that doesn't mean it doesn't shit me when you go above and beyond to split hairs on some of these things. And yes I get why you do it, it's needed, people have their shit all mixed up - me included which you have helped with on a number of occasions. I hate talking on forums sometimes, life is so much simpler in person. Get of my lawn. </grumpy>

OK, I'm sure Markos will explain it another way using very specific words, but my take on it is this. When you lift weights the muscle does not grow during that particular process, it is damaged and broken down. This forces the body to adapt, that is, repair the muscle which leads to growth/strength improvements of that muscle as it must adapt to sustain the repeated damage you subject it too. This part does not happen during lifting, rather during rest/eat/sleep. Eating is critical because you provide the body with what it needs to repair and grow the muscle to withstand the damage sustained during lifting. Essentially, if you eat well and lift heavy you will get stronger and in some cases grow larger (depending on your intake). Saying lifting weights does not build muscle is just being very specific about which stage of the process is actually responsible for muscle gains, which is the eating phase. Your average gym goer will say that lifting weights builds muscle because they are assuming you are eating with that goal in mind so it's taken for granted. Technically it is only a part of the process and not the specific part that actual does the growing. Yes it is splitting hairs, but as Markos said, its part of the misinformation that gets around. Is it an issue? Not to someone with half a brain because most people will know that if you are lifting to get stronger or bigger, you must eat accordingly. Unfortunately, not everyone is that clued on so it does need to be specifically spelled out to some. That is not a dig at you either.

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It's as Birds said Leesh, which is why Markos agreed with it. Lift weights, damage muscle, force adaptation. Eat to repair/build muscle.

What does BW have to do with anything a 120kg sqaut is a 120kg squat I think you said it yourself. BW is not an excuse which in this case would also mean reason for being strong or weak. http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page-363#entry6906633 No doubt a solid effort either way.

Haha that's the one.

Vid title says 85kg?

Max doughies down at Lidcombe station...

I've edited the post for you. Your job is safe.

Wrong choice of words on my part, don't be so pedantic. I am agreeing with you.

I guess that's my point Markos, what they are doing goes beyond "doing cardio" although they are doing an exercise strongly related to burning CALORIES etc.

I agree with that, I've stopped doing all ab work, still have abs. Not like that guy but decent for a guy who sits all day and only trains 3x a week. I walk in the morning purely because it wakes me up, the dog likes it, and it helps with my ankle. The body is lazy and will quickly work into a groove where it can sustain cardio work with minimal effort on the muscle/cardio system. That is, a 10k run does jack for you compared to a 1hr gym session with some decent volume. Maybe high end cyclists are one of the exception? they maintain great speeds for long periods which can only be done with solid leg power.

That's what I'll be doing Markos, I'll be dropping by to see Matt from time to time. $40 for an hour is well worth it every once in a while to make sure I'm on the right track. I'm very glad I followed your advice in seeing him the first time.

Gym is at home and yes, same routine, M/W/F takes about an hour. EDIT: Same session as in exercises, but over time slowly adding weight. I take it pretty slowly as I've had injuries in the past from rushing it and have a bit of a bum leg at the moment. Have also paused bench for now until legs catch up a bit, more of a mental thing more than anything plus not sure how strong this new bench is =\ Supposedly rated at 200kg including user and I'm pretty much at that now. Should have read the fine print.

Obligatory image. A man and a woman being affectionate?

What the hell Troy that's terrible lol

I've lurked on this thread for ages and never said anything. I liked that it was a unique build and the effort you put into things. But I can say, you will never regret moving to a GT-R. If you've always wanted one then you should definitely get it. I had one for a while and will get back into one when I'm done paying off the house, hopefully in the next few years, in the meantime the S13 allows me to still have a play now and then. I hope you can recoup a stack of cash and that the return to stock process goes as smoothly as possible.