Marco-R34GTT

Awwwww I can't help that Skylines can't levitate, I'm forced to drive on gravel due to poor state/federal government policy... *sad*

Soft Cox...

I think Dan's picture sums this up entirely... Personally, I love the numberplae though!!! EPIC!!

Well I bought yours the first time around Dan and I'm 100% behind you... Great product.. Wish pricks weren't so 'bargan basement' cheap..

So you sprayed them all white as an undercoat, and then used the saturn black as a 2nd coat??

So is watching paint dry!

I agree Jenson has lost heart, but I don't think the same is for Rubens.. I agree on Vettel too, after Italy he had me in shock, after Brazil he left me absolutely stunned... He made Hamilton, the new *ahem* 'rainmaster' look like he was driving a Minardi...

Go in the slip courden dood!! Once I took nine catches of five different bowlers playing at second slip... Best one was I think, the fourth wicket, keeper dived, the ball deflected off his right glove webbing, first slip jumped up and it hit the tips of his fingers, then I launched forward and took a great diving catch. That match I also scored 64 off 47 balls.. I was quite chuffed actually! Worse innings was one I played out bush, we were 4/46 and I had two great partnerships and wickets five and six, however I couldn't seem to get on the board. The innings was stopped twice due to 48 degree heat, I managed to score 71 off about 150 something balls. I was struggling, didn't have a good feel for the wicket at all, I just couldn't lift the run rate (I think I only managed to hit six or so boundries)... Five hours play... I don't think I've ever been so exhausted in my life.. Ahhhh, back in the old days....

So a 37 year old guy (over the hill in F1 terms), in shitty conditions, in a shitty car, scoring a stellar podium, isn't enough in your eyes?? 11 Points in what was a mediocre car just doesn't cut the mustard?? I think you are short changing Rubens there, he deserves more credit than he is due, he has always deserved more credit than he has been given. Rubens Barrichello in my eyes would be in my top ten drivers for the 2000's.. Schumi. Alonso. Vettel. Mika. Hamilton/Kimi/Massa (Can't decide order yet). Rubens. Montoya. DC/Webber (can't decide who takes #10). Still... GO RUBENS! I HOPE YOU'RE STILL THERE IN 09! STICK IT TO THE MAN!

So what is the other job??? Whoring???

I used to play cricket (indoor and 30-30), however I pinch nerves in my shoulders so that is no longer an option (off spin, medium pace/swing & upper middle order batsman).. Likewise I used to enjoy tennis, footy (AFL) and a bit of soccer, however three cartilage tears are enough for me now.. I also gave boxing a bit of a spin in my fitter days, but a left shoulder recon/knee damage but an abrupt end to that as well..

S0R is teh fail!!!!!!!!!!!!! *runs*

I cable tied hoony's bumper to my car when he borrowed my front bar to get over the pits... Put it this way, I've never seen my old man so pissed off...

Well speaking of the gearsets, are they available in six speed?? Can I get them in Aus? If not, who can import them?? Also, in the event I did want to go to a Supra or V35 Getrag, surely it wouldn't be impossible to pick up one of these transmissions, would I need to look towards Japan? or would there be enough of them in Aus??

Actually, just thinking about it... Why don't any of these energy drinks ever contain Gurana... It is a proven energy stimulant... They've all got Taurine, but no Gurana... That seems silly... They should have BOTH lol!

Why are all you people going off topic ffs! This is an economics thread.... :laughing-smiley-014: :laughing-smiley-014: :laughing-smiley-014:

I was going to say that, but I didn't want to spoil teh fun..

I haven't sorry, I can't watch it on dad's precious satellite internet, he's only got 1GB worth of downloads a month! Also, we were shaped for half of November, so I'm not going through THAT again.. Do you reckon you could PM me the link, I'd like to have a look at it never the less..

I obviously meant as supply shrinks and demands grows.. Sorry about that, it was rather late at night when I wrote that. Also, I wouldn't consider the argument totally irrelevant, a VERY MAJOR component of the current economic crisis has in fact been energy policy (Mainly the USA). Sure the housing market/bad loans was the basis for the crash to occur, the spike and then collapse of the price of energy had a lot to do not only with the rapidity of the worsening economic conditions, but also the severity and depth of the recessions that will be experienced world wide. Little government intervention on energy is a bad piece of policy, taxation is a must and efficiency is numero uno. The much vaunted 'invisible hand' has given us all one mighty pimp slap to the face! Laissez-faire economics didn't work in the 1920's and it hasn't worked in the 2000's, market liberalism works when the sun is shining, but the collapses are just too severe, too rapid and too economically desvistating...

I'm of the thought that fuel in Australia and America has always been far too cheap. Having energy costs that are too low, and at a cost that does not realistically represent their true economic, nonrenewable and finite nature, is not only a bad piece of government policy, it also discourages the automotive industry from producing vehicles with a sensible and pragmatic approach to energy efficiency. Having fuel at 70 - 80 cents will not provide the necessary incentive for companies to invest in clean, renewable energy, and not even that, it simply does not encourage the individual to become efficient in their own individual consumption of energy. I'm not a hippy, in fact, I utterly despise environmentalists of most forms. However, I will recognise two things, our planet is teetering on a state of near catastrophic ecological disaster, and that our current and still main source of cheap, base energy is a finite resource which is dwindling by the day, at a rate of around 120 millions barrels of oil a day roughly (Just to note, up until recently, it was the Americans alone consuming around 36,000,000 barrels of oil daily). I don't agree with fuel having been between roughly $1.50 to $1.80. Having energy prices that increase dramatically in a short'ish duration, is no good in as it is really a one way ticket to upward inflationary pressure, not only that, a quick'ish rise in energy costs sends a relatively violent ripple effect throughout any modern economy. I don't have any figures on me at the moment, but I'd say fuel would've been at $1.00 in... Say... 2004??? Fast forward 4 years, 2008, fuel was at a price at roughly $1.60... That is a 60% increase in fuel prices over the course of 4 years, so that is around abouts a mean increase of 20% per annum. Do people usually receive a 20$ increase in pay over the course of a year? With fuel saying "It has only gone up 20 cents" is not really the point, the point is that fuel would've gone up 20% every year over four years. Once you calculate your average fuel consumption over a week or even a month. The dollars start to add up, in which case, you're discretionary spending power (Money you use to buy 'luxury goods') takes a hit, when this affects a few people here and there it doesn't make much of a difference, but consider that possibility all over the world, or even just Australia, and the implications of sharp rises in energy are easily understood. Still, I don't agree with fuel prices being too low either, if you've watched the news much over the last month or so, you would've seen the dire financial trouble General Motors, Ford America and Chrysler are all in.. Americans have been paying peanuts for fuel since.... Well... Forever really. In true adherence to the apparently tried and true "Laissez-faire"(**^^**) capitalism, the Americans have never taxed fuel to any real degree, at most, they've occasionally imposed excises in conditions of temporary shortage (ie: WWII), however, that fact isn't really all that meaningful to the argument. What is meaningful is that for the majority of its history, the American people have been literally smothered in dirt cheap energy and THAT is why car manufacturers in the USofA have never built an engine (or cars for that matter) with decent technology or engineering. A few months ago, we had, what looked like, a perilous and dramatic increase in fuel prices that literally, week after week, were breaking all kinds of trading records. We'd never seen crude oil at $147 off dollars a barrel, it was totally unprecedented, this is what caused a lot of people, both within America and aboard, to finally shun the big American lump of a car. The mustangs, the chargers, the cameros, the hemis and the corvettes of old (and some even recent) where indeed something to behold, in a design and power sense, the yanks could on occasion 'hit the nail square on the head', however, that car making philosophy was never going to survive long into the 21st century, a fact which is now entirely evident. Now that even the price of fuel has come off in an equally dramatic manner, the American lump is on borrowed time, people at the moment don't really have the money to buy a new car at this point, not with houses on the line, jobs, mortgages and personal loans to cover. Even so, considering someone HAD the job security and the capital to purchase a new car, the horror of $1.40 per litre is still far profound to give even minor relief to the car industry, I imagine potential buyers are thinking "Well, f*ck this, I'm off the buy a Golf Diesel". So not only where people not putting in orders for American vehicles, on the basis that fuel was rapidly becoming more and more expensive, but moreso, with the current economic crisis we are facing, people simply don't have the financial muscle, security and confidence to stump up the necessary funds, and for those that do, they won't buy these vehicles for two reasons. As I mentioned before, the horror of the expensive fuel is far too fresh, people don't want to be driving big, inefficient and thirsty vehicles when fuel shoots back up the June/July 08 levels, and secondly, I think attitudes are slowly changing, we all know now that even IF WE ARE YET to reach world peak oil production (google 'peak oil' theory), we all know it is still finite, we know it simply will not last forever, a scarce product will always increase with price as supply grows and demand shrinks. Also, and more importantly, I think most consumers grasp the idea of global warming, it is too hard NOT to notice. I think people will still appreciate the old 68' GT500 Mustangs, or the 72' Stingray Corvettes, but I don't think consumers are taking kindly to such inefficient vehicles being produced in 2008, consumers (even Americans) have become too aware and too cautious to consider these modern 'American lumps' purchasable... Was it the philosophy of the American automotive industry? Was is the American government? Their fiscal policy and economic ideology? Was it the attitudes of the American people? Was it the perception that the Americans are a 'throw away' society? I don't know the answer, but I think each of those questions holds a little bit of truth. Now.. I'm off to bed... ZZZzzzz **^^** - [NERD - hold breath](For those of you who don't know of this term. Firstly "Laissez-faire" is French (obviously ), and it is an economic term that defines a western style capitalism that operates on the principle that the least amount of government interference, ie; income taxation, stamp duties, import tariffs ect ect, is best for the economy. In which case theoretically the weak should fall and the mighty should rise, it allows opportunity and advancement for the most economically/financially adventurous, prudent and entrepreneurial. The invisible hand (google supply/demand) will always, (in a free market, capitalist economy) be most able to adequately distribute finance, capital and resources where it is most needed, and where it will be most efficiently utilised).[/NERD - breathe again] {edit} - I just realised how long this post was... Sorry... lol..

Yeah, into next yeah I'm looking at replacing my voltmeter, oil temp, oil pressure, air/fuel, boost and maybe even water temp gauges.. I really like the ones that go black, and also, in regards to my boost gauge, I'd really like it in PSI, I'm sorta a bit old fashioned like that!

What brands make those gauges which show the 'black face' when the car is off but light up when you turn the car on??

Haven't you already put a bodykit on your car???

Well that kinda sucks eh....

Sorry to go OT, but only briefly. Next week mate. Also, cheers for that, be great to have that final LED in my triple gauge cluster!