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Hi Kushil, Our pricing is as follows: Front DBA 4000 Series Cross Drilled $264 each Rear DBA 4000 Series Cross Drilled $247.50 each Front Remsa Pads $119 for the set. Rear Remsa Pads $110 for the set. All up $1252, we'll do it as a package deal for $1200 delivered. Remsa is a high performance street pad rated to 650 degrees (versus 550 for QFM HPX or Bendix Ultimate) and what we supply as a trade servicing pad to heigh end Euro sports cars, so they're still fine for regular street work. Any questions feel free to give us a bell on 1300 884 386. Regard, Greg

Yep, got plenty of the Remsa in stock, and that's out number in my sig. Speak soon.

Is that for the 5000 or 4000 series? It's ridiculously cheap for the 5000, but a bit expensive for the 4000... Ultimates are rated to 550, alternatively we've got European made Remsa pads (what we supply to Porsche/Ferrari etc. as a trade servicing pad) which is rated to 650 degrees, and $119 for the front, and $110 for the rear. Or QFM HPX, which are equivalent to the Ultimate's performance wise, but low dust and rotor wear, $110 per set front or rear.

Yep, those Project Mu shims are brilliant, in fact, Sarge, if your brake don't quieten down in the next couple of hundred k's, let me know and I'll send you a set of them as a free trial. Normal price on them, to suit both Brembo and Sumitomo, is $65 for the front set, and $55 for the rear set. Unfortunately noise is a constant bugbear with opposed piston calipers...

Just quickly, you need alot more than a few quick stops for pads to be bed in properly. Bed in is about transferring an even layer of pad material to the rotors, and nothing to do with putting excessive heat through the pads, or burning off resin etc.. This can take up to a couple of hundred k's. The noise should go away once you've put a few k's on the pads. That said, what sort of shims did you refit to the pads? If it's the standard metal type shims, they generally cause more noise they they save, and we rarely recommend fitting them to QFM pads. The only two types of shims that I would recommend would be the soft stuck on shims that EBC/Remsa/TRW etc come with standard, or a soft wrapped metal reusable one, like the Project Mu ones: The only other thing I could suggest is applying a small 5mm chamfer on the leading edge of the pads, similar to what alot of OE pads some with standard.

We've got about 8 different options on pads for that Ford/Merc 6 piston Brembo, it's quite a common caliper. With regards to Nascar pads, alot of the teams are switching to Project Mu now because, although more expensive than the current crop of US made stuff, they last ALOT longer, and the Nascar pads are distributed worldwide from PMU here in Australia, not Japan, so depending on what you're after, you'll be able to buy the PMu Nascar pads here cheaper than what you'll be able to if you buy a set having done a round trip around the globe. Yes, they'll be more expensive, but as most categories are finding now (particularly the V8's and Porsche Cup locally) the PMu gear lasts alot longer than most other big name brand stuff, so pays for itself pretty quickly.

Hi mate, As has been said, it's generally 2 pads per wheel, and indeed all Skylines I know have follow this. The main exceptions (where there's more than 2 pads per wheel) that we deal with on a regular basis would be the M Series PBR calipers (6 and 4 pads per wheel front and rear respectively), and more commonly, a stack of Audi/VW that use 4 pads per front caliper (like S4, A8 etc.). Regards, Greg

Hi Peter, I'd go a European made performance pad called Remsa, rated to 650 degrees (or 100 degrees better than QFM HPX or Bendix Ultimate) and what we supply as a trade servicing pad to high end Euro sports cars. $79 for the set, and heaps in stock. Regards, Greg

Hi mate, Prices as follows: RDA Std $159 each RDA Slotted $289 for the pair DBA 4000 Series Std $159 each DBA 4000 Series Slotted $159 each (yep, same price) DBA 4000 Series XS $235 each Regards, Greg

That was going to be my guess even before I read it. Most modern pad compounds (since asbestos was banned) are VERY reliant on having their material on the rotor for them to work properly, and we know this to be particularly true of the QFM pads. As has been said, take the pads out and give them a light rub on some concrete, and give the rotors a light machine and you should be fine. The HPX is definitely not known to be a noisy pad. That said, HPX we've phased out in favor of a better performance street pad. It's a European performance pad called Remsa, which is rated to 650 degrees (versus 550 for the HPX). Also the Remsa come with noise reducing features such as a relief groove and shamfers in the pad material, as well as a soft backing shim, all of which the HPX do not come with. We've been supplying Remsa to high performance street road cars like Porsche and Ferrari for many years, but the pricing has now become such that we're now able to expand it to most road cars.

The mounting face on the Project Mu Skyline rear rotors (both 300mm and 322mm) is 1mm thicker than it is on the Project Mu 350Z rear rotors, and so to compensate for this, the Project Mu rear rotors are made to 64mm to centralise. If you don't beleive me, have a look at SCRN008 (300mm rear), which is also 64mm according to Project Mu, but is 63mm according to both RDA and DBA, and indeed most other manufacturers. The manufacturers overall height will vary a mm or two in some cases due to their preferred thickness of the mounting face part of the rotor, in order to keep it in the middle of the caliper. The actual, real world, bolt-it-to-the-car-and-measure-the-difference-at-the-caliper is only 0.5mm... They do, they make CRD and SCR to suit 300mm rear, but only 322mm rear gets the two piece SCR Pro.

Correct! To the point where most manufacturers just round it up to 63mm in both cases:

GSL RallySport - 1300 884 836, or PM me. Brembo Std $238 for the pair RDA Std $238 for the pair RDA Slotted $309 for the pair DBA 4000 Series Std $330 for the pair DBA 4000 Series Slotted $490 for the pair Project Mu CRD Slotted $519 for the pair Project Mu SCR Slotted $875 for the pair Brembo are in stock, RDA and DBA should be in stock, Project Mu you might need to allow a few weeks to order in. Regards, Greg

CLASSIC!!

Because all though the rear 'axle' as a component does less of the overall vehicle braking, it's also got substantially smaller hardware in which to do it with, so the rear brakes, more often than not, work just as hard in the back as they do in the front when pushed hard. The biggest mistake people make is neglecting the rear, hitting the hills/track, having the rear fade out without them noticing, and put more pressure on the front, which fade, and then get blamed... When it comes to pads in particular, there's VERY few applications where we don't recommend running the same pads front and rear. VERY light front wheel drives and Porsches (the later for fairly unique reasons) are the two major exceptions. And the same thought process have to be applied when discussing upgrades and caliper choices.

They do, but we're not ordering them in until the 6 or 7 remaining sets of HPX have sold. Pricing from memory on the rears is about the same.

Hi Callum, As I said on the phone, and just FYI for everyone else, HPX we've phased out in favor of a better performance street pad. It's a European performance pad called Remsa, which is rated to 650 degrees (versus 550 for the HPX), whilst still being low dust and rotor wear. Also the Remsa come with noise reducing features such as a relief groove and shamfers in the pad material, as well as a soft backing shim, all of which the HPX do not come with. We've been supplying Remsa to high performance street road cars like Porsche and Ferrari for many years, but the pricing has now become such that we're now able to expand it to most road cars. Remsa to suit the front of GTST is $89 for the set. Rear's we're still doing HPX for now, and they're $79 for the set. Regards, Greg

That may haven been written before asbestos was banned, and pad composition changed dramatically. There's very few modern pads that require the resin to be burned off as they're talking about. As DBA said in that attached PDF, it's more about transferring that even film of material to the rotor. The procedure that DBA list in that PDF is much closer to the mark: 60mph is way fast to be bedding pads in. QFM's own in house bed in procedure:

Not really no. The idea of bed in isn't to 'cook' the pads or put any sort of massive heat through them, but to transfer an even layer of pad material to the rotor. As that ehow thing says, they only accelerate to 30mph, which is ample. The key is to be consistent in the application, and transfer that even layer. An uneven layer of material leads to DTV (disc thickness variation) and what most people like to call warping... Even though rotors rarely (if ever...) 'warp', it just doesn't happen*. I hate hearing horror stories of people bedding in pads doing 120km/hr-10 hard stops... that's a sure fire way to bugger the pad up. * Rather than me explain, have a quick squiz of this: http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_warped_brakedisk.shtml

Project Mu H16-03. Control pad of the V8 Supercars, and still quite streetable. Also widely used in rally where brakes are needed from dead cold and the cars have to be driven on public roads. Will also last ALOT longer than the A1RM. Not one V8 team last year at Bathurst HAD to do a pad change during the race, they only did them because they're required to by the regs. Same couldn't be said for the previous pad they used... H16-03 to suit 4 pot non Brembo are $469, H16-03 to suit Brembo are $519. For the rear we'd just go club racer, which are $325 and $350 respectively.

The pad we previously would've recommended would've been the QFM HPX, but we're slowly phasing HPX out in favor of a better performance street pad. It's a European performance pad called Remsa, which is rated to 650 degrees (versus 550 for the HPX or something like Bendix Ultimate), whilst still being low dust and rotor wear. Also the Remsa come with noise reducing features such as a relief groove and shamfers in the pad material, as well as a soft backing shim, all of which the HPX do not come with. We've been supplying Remsa to high performance street road cars like Porsche and Ferrari for many years, but the pricing has now become such that we're now able to expand it to most road cars. Remsa to suit non-Brembo GTR are $89 for the front. Rears we'll still do HPX for now, which are $79 for the set.

If you're only doing casual track work as you say, it's definitely where I'd start. I've taken state titles on them, they're a bloody good pad, but I do agree they have a limitation. Don't get carried away with temp ratings. A1RM is rated to 780, rotors RARELY get hotter than mid 600's. There's a reason why the top thermal marking paint on rotors (like DBA 4000 and 5000 series) is only 630 degrees... If you're after a fairly serious pad, then I would go something better than A1RM, but when you said casual track work that's the way I went. With regards to the above comment, it is possible. Probably the best example is the Project Mu H16-03 which is the control pad of the V8 Supercars, yet is also VERY widely used in rallying where brakes are required from dead cold, and require the cars to be driven on public roads between stages etc. Yep, any pad manufacturer that claims their pads are good for 1200 degrees C is full of the proverbial. Have a look at what temperatures F1 cars develop on their carbon brakes, then try and tell me they've got pads good for 1200 degrees for use on a cast iron rotor... If you wanted a very serious pad, up from A1RM, but not quite V8 Supercar territory, I'd go the Project Mu Club Racer which is what I personally now run in my competition car, and is the sister formulation to the above mentioned H16-03. To suit Brembo are $379 for the front, and $349 for the rear.

Hi mate, In that case I'd go QFM A1RM which is a Ferodo DS2500 equivalent and still works from dead cold etc. To suit the front are are $149. With regards to the rear, do you mean ST22? http://www.stoptech.com/products/img/ST-22.jpg If so, A1RM are also $149 for the set. Otherwise if you wanted a dedicated competition only pad we can look at something from Project Mu. Any questions at all just let me know! Regards, Greg

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