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Roseberg is such a shit kicker... :rofl:

I used to like him but have now discovered he's reckless... Unthinking is the best way to put it. How he managed to collect Montoya is beyond me. JPM pulled the exact same move on schumi a couple laps before with no problems...

thats the best pic of what happened that i can get.

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this alonso/renault combo is unbelieveable... i cannot forsee a race that he wont win... This might go down as the most dominated season ever!! And Mclaren is back on the money... Raikkonen first stint was sensational. The car is starting to develop real raw pace.

The red team is nowhere... Schumi i think is making the car look beter than it acctually is

my only question is this... WTF is Alonso doing here? :rofl:

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How can you say the Ferraris were nowhere. Massa was around and MS looked threatening. If he had of jumped Trulli at the start it would have been a very interesting race. With MS losing time behind the Toyota and Kimi's pitstops hurting him...well it took a bit out of the race. Good on DC though for getting Button... :P

How can you say the Ferraris were nowhere. Massa was around and MS looked threatening. If he had of jumped Trulli at the start it would have been a very interesting race. With MS losing time behind the Toyota and Kimi's pitstops hurting him...well it took a bit out of the race. Good on DC though for getting Button... :rofl:

ahhh the voice of reason...so much better.

schumacher also had a heavier fuel load in the first stint

exactly... massa was 'around'.... at no point did he even remotly threaten the top guys. his race pace was disracefl considering how fast his team mate was going...

massa 1 stopped...so he would have been 1 of the heaviest cars out there for the majority of the race

massa 1 stopped...so he would have been 1 of the heaviest cars out there for the majority of the race

5th was a good result considering he one stopped, should have been very heavy and the tyre wear was nothing like teams were expecting. Look what happened to all the other Bridgestone runners.

Ppl are quick to jump on Massa, but he isnt doing that bad a job..after all its his first season back with the team. Look at Fisi in his 2nd season in a team with an establised driver...he had Renault/Benetton experience earlier in his career...it all takes time to get a relationhsip with your engineers. I cantthink of may team mates who have joined a team and matched the existing driver...adn we are talking about MS as the poor guys partner/measuring stick

5th was a good result considering he one stopped, should have been very heavy and the tyre wear was nothing like teams were expecting. Look what happened to all the other Bridgestone runners.

Ppl are quick to jump on Massa, but he isnt doing that bad a job..after all its his first season back with the team

yep. i was agreeing with you :rofl:

5th was bullshit... only reason he got that far up was cause 3 people DNF'd infront of him...

im not saying he's shit im just saying that he is a more accurate representation of where ferrari really are in the hands of a good driver (not an exceptional one, like he's team mate)

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rosberg decided to try to maintain the position...schumacher knew it would result in him being parked in a wall like rosberg, so took the grass to avoid it....and was applauded by montoya...

I've watched this incident a couple of times and still can't make up my mind of whom is to blame. Montoya had the line into the first corner and Rosberg gave him room but he had the 2nd corner and Montoya didn't want to give him any room because he knew that would put him in the outside wall. The fact that Montoya hit Rosberg in the side pod shows that Montoya still didn't own the 2nd part of the corner.

You can't just punt your car up the inside and force the other bloke off the track onto the grass, that's not racing.

It was good to see Webber actually finish a race even though he was nowhere. After about lap 5 I thought he may end up with some points with everyone up the front dropping out but that wasn't to be.

My 2c was that Rosberg was pretty scrappy and had been for a few corners...and Montoya had him on the inside at about the 21 second frame of that footage.

Rosberg had every right to hang around on the outside, but he must have knows a car that far up the inside is far more committed to the corner. Montoya grabbed a whole lot of kerb adn grass trying to stay tight but drifted a little wide.

He would have been massivly compromised at the corner exit of the left hander. It just seems to be the sort of incident that Webber was getting himslef involved in last year because he was trying too hard.

The fact that Montoya had just pulled the same move on MS, well MS knew it was worht figthing righ tup to the point where it was goign to cost him his car so he surrended...Rosberg should have done the same

Here are some clips i've made from onboard footage of the race (nobody see's this footage as it's raw video with no commentary or race data) so if you have any requests lemme know (the footage chops and changes alot).

Sorry about the quality, I dont have enough personal webspace and YouTube compresses the files heaps.

Michael Schumacher race start - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIc4ZFiC4QI

Montoya pitting for new front wing - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d25e2pAZTlI

McLaren slipstreaming - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzYLwYlnwWk

Raikkonen slipstreaming Alonso - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCJf6w-46H8

Alonso back straight from rear wing - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1jzVRs8Epc

Nose cam of the back straight - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQElkzI-nUM

cheers for those links dude, cant believe raikkinen didnt get past alonso in that slipstream, ah well

I was looking at some other F1 vids on there and cant help but linking this one up, probably the best duel in F1 ive ever seen, enjoy

F1 duel (and why does it give me this stupid text instead of the link)

Some British onboard clips:

McLaren warmup lap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuUp6EBW8mw

McLaren start of race: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEOOaSOb0qo

Schumacher scrubbing front tyres: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3QH8cEVMAs

Schumacher close call: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5yWI67__TQ

McLaren slipstreaming Honda: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti9CazQjpGA

..and here is a great review of the 2002 season I found

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