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The MPS will have more traction off the line, and the Commodore V8s run the world's widest gear ratios.

Standing kilometre the Commodore will smash the MPS, but quarter mile I reckon it'll be close.

Love to see some actual dragstrip numbers though.

The mazda 6 has recorded mid 14 sec passes and 0-100 6.4 seconds.Not exactly a slouch by anymeans and would show alot of LS1 commodores a bit of cheek down the 1/4.

i saw about 3 LS1 commys run 14.8 to 15.6 sec 1/4 last night at willowbank.

The mazda 3 mps is supposed to run 0-100 in 6 flat.Imagine an edited cpu,exhaust,cia and air pod with a tickle of some boost and retuned would see a lot of modded LS1 guys running scared :)

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its weird how it gains 200kg over the luxury sports hatch auto 6.... must like that sound deadener alot

You're right. It must be sound deadener.

Because the driveshaft, rear diff, rear tail shafts etc probably wouldn't add any extra weight, and the turbocharger and its associated plumbing are made of ultra-light materials that wouldn't register a blip on the scales. :P

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Its in the rear diff and shafts as you said.If you think they dont weigh much,take a look at the Ford control blade IRS in the falcon.Thats what made the falcon so heavy and will make the new VE commy platform another 200 kg heavier than the last model.

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The mazda 6 has recorded mid 14 sec passes and 0-100 6.4 seconds.Not exactly a slouch by anymeans and would show alot of LS1 commodores a bit of cheek down the 1/4.

i saw about 3 LS1 commys run 14.8 to 15.6 sec 1/4 last night at willowbank.

The mazda 3 mps is supposed to run 0-100 in 6 flat.Imagine an edited cpu,exhaust,cia and air pod with a tickle of some boost and retuned would see a lot of modded LS1 guys running scared :P

I'm afraid the only places quoting mid 14's are 'guessing' there is no actual 'test' that I've been able to find as yet. The 6.5 second claim is a factory one too.

same weight and 70kw not to mention 130nm of torque shy of the basic V8 comodore on offer, it would keep up in someones dreams.

I would gladly take money on a bet on how much quicker the new commo' would be if I were to take both over the standing 1/4mile. It's simple math.

This car is a 1639kg 'barge' it needs lots more than 190kw and a gay amount of torque to make it quick.

OR take 200kgs out of it.

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Its in the rear diff and shafts as you said.If you think they dont weigh much,take a look at the Ford control blade IRS in the falcon.Thats what made the falcon so heavy and will make the new VE commy platform another 200 kg heavier than the last model.

The 4WD Porsche 996 weighs about 150kg more than its 2WD counterpart. And given how anal Porsche is about weight, they probably would have gotten it as light as they could have afforded in a $250,000 car.....

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How about the Mazda 3 MPS Turbo Front Wheel Driven.

http://www.drive.com.au/editorial/article.aspx?id=11169

http://www.channel4.com/4car/gallery/spysh.../3-mps/mps.html

2.3L Turbo Engine from the Mazda 6 MPS with a Mazda 3 shell less the AWD.

184kw@fly (detuned) 380Nm Of Torque

Price from $40,000.

0-100km/h in 6.1sec

i reckon with a FMIC, Exhaust, Pod and a bit of boost and tuning this thing will be a little monster!

i around 1300kg (a bit heavy but still 180kw STANDARD trim!) haha

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I'm afraid the only places quoting mid 14's are 'guessing' there is no actual 'test' that I've been able to find as yet. The 6.5 second claim is a factory one too.

same weight and 70kw not to mention 130nm of torque shy of the basic V8 comodore on offer, it would keep up in someones dreams.

I would gladly take money on a bet on how much quicker the new commo' would be if I were to take both over the standing 1/4mile. It's simple math.

This car is a 1639kg 'barge' it needs lots more than 190kw and a gay amount of torque to make it quick.

OR take 200kgs out of it.

Remember its AWD so it can launch alot harder than a stock commy.Not saying a commy wouldnt beat it but the 60 foot time will tell you who gets out of the hole first.

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So has anyone actually driven one of the 3L 6cyl libs yet?

Yeah I have.

Been lookin for somethin to lease, and narrowed it to 4 cars to drive. 06 STi, Evo IV, Liberty STi, Liberty 3.0 R Spec B. I'm not into anything euro. And I wouldn't consider an MPS, they're too obviously based on a front-wheel-drive. The whole 4WD settup seems like tryin to p*ss around a corner to me!

I drove all except the Evo, which to be honest I went off when I sat in it and looked around it. No doubt a great car, and would be my preference for a targa car or something, but at my age I'm lookin for a little "feel good" factor when you sit in and drive the car. I've been through the whole "stiffly suspended and difficult to live with stage". They really are a tarted up shopping trolley - quality wise.

New STi was fantastic, especially compared to my last STi experience (an '02 STi Bug-eye) - handling much nicer (less under), and good (not great, especially compared to RB26) torque spread. Very hard to put up with the immature carpet and trim treatment though, not to mention the insipid body kit.

I ruled out the GT by STi fairly quickly, it's fairly obvious that these will be re-released soon as a 2.5l (with a six speed?), and I didn't want to be stuck with an orphan come trade-in time.

I liked the 3.0R most, great engine sound, great 'box, crisp throttle response, really nice interior, awesome quality stereo, clean looks (I'd go a black wagon), good ride/handling compromise, just a nice car. Not that fast, but respectable. But compared to turbo cars, no real opportunity to step up the power when you want to.

So, for me, I'd still go the 3.0R, I'm just struggling to come to grips with spending $55k when it looks virtually the same as the neighbors 2.0 base model. Talk about keepin up with the Jones'es!

Oh, and sorry about rambling too!

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