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MY 1JZGTE has done 184000k's on a factory internals, factory cams, factory intake manifold, with just big turbo injectors and ecu i am making 500rwhp through and auto and have done for 2 years, it doesnt blow smoke the catch can has never had a drop of oil in it and im running tens in a big heavy cressida.

show me an rb 25 that has done that.

toyotas are cheaper for parts, a complete engine only costs $500 rb 25s as far as i know cost like $1500. i havent seen a rb25 auto or manual make the power i am with simple bolt ons.

I don't know just seems there is a slight discrepancy between what was said was on the car and what is to get 500rwhp. Perhaps there was supposed to be comma between 'big turbo' and 'injectors', then again there probably should have been mention of the NO2 and plethora of other mods that look like they have gone into the car.

You're all a bit to quick with the eat your words sucka, want some soy sauce etc. 1JZ.747 says he has a 500rwhp cressida, ross says prove it, he does and everyone's a winner. I mean how many threads have been seen with 'my stock camry has 11ty rwkw'.

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the power delivery of both cars are totally different, the stock turbos and exhaust system is a joke ( if you have ever seend the dump pipe and manifold setup you will seriously laugh it has the good old T style dump pipe so the two turbos are constantly fighting against each other)...

the torque of the 1jz is huge like the car pulls from very down low but anything after 6,700rpm sounds like it is really struggling, (although i am only running a cat-back exhaust). But as soon as you bolt on that big single then you are cooking with gas.

as for chassis, i think toyota spent their money on developing the motor more than developing a sleek sporty chassis. I prefer the look of the r33 and it is definatly more nible than the soarer. But when it comes down to it if you time money and effort to do a conversion into a different chassis or do something like shane then you will never look back...

if only toyota released a similar chassis to the s13 with a 1jz just like me hehe :thumbsup:

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since this i have gone to bosch coils and microtechs x6box ignition system.

it now makes 440 rwhp no gas, and with a 36 shot 510rwhp. it has now run 10.70 et at 129.98 mph.

its a cressida not a soarer. the thread was rb 25 vs 1jzgte, not gtr versus soarer. but ill take the pepsi challenge against this gtr you speak of. ill be at wsid on good friday racing in the street tyre shoot out with BUSTER and 2RISMO. will we see your mates GTR there?

the good old, my mates got.i get it all the time. what do you have?

and for the record, i couldnt give 2 shits if you believe i am making the power ross, my results speak for themselves.

Awsome car shane, don't worry about what some of this guys say, it's a typical "I got a mate with a fully sick gtr" but my questions is, What do they have? not they're mates.

If i was doing a conversion, i'd pick the 1jz hands down. For the performance, and the cost. The blue celica in thats racing the cressida in those pics was also in zoom (if its the one i think it is) and was putting out from memory 350odd rwkw on pump fuel without gas, and just bolt on's and i think that had 264's in it... Martin donnon from zoom's manual soarer was putting out 320-350rwkw from memory on pump without gas as well... with stock internals

The best thing is as 1jz-747's car shows, they run for years like that. IF you go that much power out of an RB25 (thats a big if), i doubt it would last a year or 2 of hard driving...

Both the RB and 1J have strong gearboxes, so that doesnt really come into play.

If the engines were totally equal in performance and cost, i would still choose the 1J for the........ SOUND! Awesome sounding 6!

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ROY -

Holy geeezuz tutty fark!

What does the RB25 weigh?

bugger both of them off, they are both buskets of sh1t if they weight that much. Get a 20B:)

And i am being serious. They are great performing, make more torque then an RB26 from the factory. They sound great, small and compact and light...i so want to put one in a 240Z...but my dream garage will always be a dream garage

If i was doing a conversion, i'd pick the 1jz hands down. For the performance, and the cost. The blue celica in thats racing the cressida in those pics was also in zoom (if its the one i think it is) and was putting out from memory 350odd rwkw on pump fuel without gas, and just bolt on's and i think that had 264's in it... Martin donnon from zoom's manual soarer was putting out 320-350rwkw from memory on pump without gas as well... with stock internals

The best thing is as 1jz-747's car shows, they run for years like that. IF you go that much power out of an RB25 (thats a big if), i doubt it would last a year or 2 of hard driving...

Both the RB and 1J have strong gearboxes, so that doesnt really come into play.

If the engines were totally equal in performance and cost, i would still choose the 1J for the........ SOUND! Awesome sounding 6!

the blue celica is matt from magic performance. yes it was also on the cover of zoom, about 2 editions before mine was.

he is running a 35/40 264 cams, xf throttle body ems ecu two rows of factory 1j injectors. he is making 490rwhp at 27 psi on avgas fuel. he hurt an engine last meeting out, but has put another stocker in. and he is playing with some head porting now. i would honestly say we are both on the knife edge of whats achieveable on factory internals.

that was my point..

also, the 2jz and supra v rb26 and gtr is the obvious top of the food chain for both parties.

$15K buys a r33 with rb25 or soarer with 1jz.

so to me, it is comparitive.

that was the point of this thread.

some good points have been made, some small penis's have been measured.

good thread.

roy... a rotiserie is only good for cooking my protein intake of chicken..

not to power cars.

Shane,

Wheres the sheet then?

Funny thing is a 33 gtr with a few mods equalling less than a few grand would leave your sourer looking for a family to sit in it.

I quite like sourers but i will have to see a dyno slip before I beleive 500hp Im sorry.

My mates gtr 33 blows mosts cars off the road at the moment and that has a lot less than that. Yes thats including supras.

Hey put up a slip and ill eat my words.

Ross - all i can say is that you got owned - hard.

Shane - nice car that's one monster ^^ i think i've actually seen that magazine before just cant remember when.

Go the Toyotas! ^^

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