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I know me, and I don't reckon that will happen. Ants, was just looking at your build pics and your exhaust, I reckon yours is going to be every bit as loud as mine, NICE!

I think it's going to be sweet music to my ears but probably not the neighbours nor the local authorities

Ok Whores, opinions required Looking at a soft roader type rig, it is to replace the Mazda, so 4cyl is preferred, we need it to be able to take us camping and to take Annas make up gear on location, so a little bit of off roading is required ie if its a crappy dirt road or crossing a horse paddock it needs to be able to do it mainly to save Anna haling all her shit around on foot like she has to now. The car will still spend 90% of its time on the road around town too. I narrowed it down to a Forrester 2008 -2012 or a 4cyl Grand Vitara in the same years. In terms of engines, external size and equipment they are more or less equal. Same price pretty much The Forester is the more car like apparently, is 100kg lighter. The Low range is only 1.2 ish so not very low at all. Does have an electronic diff lock as well which is handy. Also comes with roof rails (swags can go up there) and a 450L/1600L load area. 220mm of clearance. The Grand Vitara is more truck like, has a proper low range at 1.9, a faux ladder frame chassis, also has a electronic locker and hill decent assist. It has a smaller load area, 380L/758L and no roof rails. 200mm of clearance. What say the whores?

Subi Forester all da way!

I've been through the list on car sales and can't think of anything else...

I already did that, all i wanted to know was if you would trade off car feel with more room for better off roading pretty much lol

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