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:laughing-smiley-014:

Funny, though... if the creator is bagging out V8 bogans, he could at least spell Knuckleheads properly :cool:

I gotta spell it so the target audience can read it.......

And I typed it really s-l-o-w because I know they can't read real fast like......

did ya ever see my Derift Bogan magazine thread? Derift Bogan It's a bit of a chuckle too.

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As a V8 driver myself, I have to disagree, but here is not really the place to argue about V8s vs Turbos. When someone gets a 4 or 6 cyl to run a 4 second pass, then we can argue that there is a replacement for cubic displacement....

All I can say is what happens when you turbocharge a V8......? This....

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Just further to my previous post, here is a dyno sheet for a Naturally Aspirated V8. Can't say I have ever seen a dyno sheet from a Skyline look like this.

By the way, I also drive an R33, so I think I am entitled to an unbiased opinion.

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I gotta spell it so the target audience can read it.......

And I typed it really s-l-o-w because I know they can't read real fast like......

did ya ever see my Derift Bogan magazine thread? Derift Bogan It's a bit of a chuckle too.

Lol no worries mate, sorry If it sounded like I was having a go at ya, no offence intended :happy:

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Just further to my previous post, here is a dyno sheet for a Naturally Aspirated V8. Can't say I have ever seen a dyno sheet from a Skyline look like this.

By the way, I also drive an R33, so I think I am entitled to an unbiased opinion.

These dyno graphs............... are they done with pump gas? Are those 4 sec 1/4's you quote done on pump gas? Just curious. Not sure about the apple orange thing.

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Im pretty sure those dyno graphs are from summernats, 1200 rwhp could either the VH TTV8 of Eddy Tassone or Brett Wayne's, or TYHRD VX Clubby

And I think a Ford Capri put out the other figure NA at the last event, a big block with mechanical injection if i remember correctly.

Horsepower Heros only allows the use of shell optimax as a control fuel, even going to lengths of testing the fuel from the fuel rail incase any hidden methanol or fancy fuels have been added. (This ended in tragedy a couple of times with a few singed engine bays, raw fuel being sprayed on hot manifolds kind of ignites!)

A couple of years ago you were only allowed to run 15 psi boost and they were getting to those sort of figures. They must be mighty big turbos and alot of air being forced down its gullet to achieve that sort of power!

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Yes, the 1200hp one is TRYHRD from Summernats this year. Both Brett Waine and Eddy Tassone have made higher figures, but I don't have a photo of those. All Summernats Horsepower Heroes cars must run pump fuel (not sure about the Optimax being the control fuel - i thought it was just any pump fuel). Brett Waine holds the unofficial world record for highest HP on pump fuel - 1470.8rwhp.

Another interesting thing is that Summernats only has categories for NA small block, FI small block or NA big block. No FI big block. Imagine a twin turbo big block..... Nice....

I have a mate with a Monaro that would like to talk to anyone who reckons that turbocharging is better than V8s. His Monaro ran 9.4 before the new motor, hunting low 8s, fully street driven with the new motor.

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These dyno graphs............... are they done with pump gas? Are those 4 sec 1/4's you quote done on pump gas? Just curious. Not sure about the apple orange thing.

Yes the dyno graphs were on Pump fuel (explained above). The 4 second passes are not done on pump fuel, but there aren't too many cars running quicker than 9s on pump.

The 4 second cars I was referring to is Top Fuel Dragsters, they run 4s with a blown big-block V8 (around 600ci from memory) and make about 7000hp.

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oh ffs, get a sense of humour

Was that directed at me? If so, I have a good sense of humour, and I do find this funny. Rather ill-informed, but funny. It is blatantly having a shot at V8 drivers, and being a V8 driver myself, I find the "turbos vs V8s" arguments very amusing. Base line is, you can't beat physics, a bigger engine with the same work will always make more power.

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see this fella here --> >_<

That's a fairly strong clue that it is a joke post. Not really intended as catalyst for a "serious" discussion. Ya know?

No need to jump to the defence of the pushrod brigade.

Quinny, you at least seem to have your head screwed on straight, your sig' says it all. "Now driving a 'line... Crummydore for sale."

Unfortunatly, 90%+ of V8ers in fact have their heads up their ar$es and believe that the 185i "clubby" (or worse) that they are driving is actually fast. I mean, c'mon... My current ride (sub $10K VR4) has more power than that with just a boost controller and exhaust and it's 1/2 a tonne lighter than a dunny-door. It's faster than the XR6turbo I had, but its nothing special.

I have a box in the garage with Turb, inj's, ECU, 040 pump, AFM, intake pipe, etc. These bits are a proven receipe for a 320hp 4G63 engine (240kw).... then it will be fast (enough for me anyway).

"Turb's for V8ers" was/is just a bit of a giggle. If it upset you, dont read the Derift Bogan Magazine thread. that will REALLY spoil your day. :D <--- there "he" is again.

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