Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

Sorry to be negative, these are great turbo's and very responsive, however I have a pair on my GTR and it only makes 321 RWHP on X-speeds dyno at 16psi tuned by SCALI ! So 600ps I would love to see !

Any one with any suggestions on tuning these for the 400 odd RWHP they claim can be easily done would be appreciated, my GTR has all the usual mods and some, excluding cams!

When I purchaed the car the previous owner claimed it made 275rwkw however it was not even making 275rwhp.

Before you damage this sellers thread, maybe you should do a little more research before you blame your cars apparent low HP figures on these turbos because the HP ratings geo88 has quoted *are* correct.

Get yourself some Tomei Poncams and lift your boost levels and if you want to discuss your vehicles setup in more detail, start a thread in forced induction about it.

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/125360-sold/#findComment-2321875
Share on other sites

Hey mate,

FYI, the data is from HKS NOT me. I never use this turbo before. If I have it wont be BRAND NEW. Also what is quote is 600ps at the crank @ 1 bar I believe. HKS alway use the data from the engine crank and not wheel. GTR is 4WD and I guess loss should be more.

If you want to argue if it can make 600ps or more, try put up a case with HKS itself for misleading u or what. I am selling a HKS turbo and using HKS data sheet. Thanks.

Sorry to be negative, these are great turbo's and very responsive, however I have a pair on my GTR and it only makes 321 RWHP on X-speeds dyno at 16psi tuned by SCALI ! So 600ps I would love to see !

Any one with any suggestions on tuning these for the 400 odd RWHP they claim can be easily done would be appreciated, my GTR has all the usual mods and some, excluding cams!

When I purchaed the car the previous owner claimed it made 275rwkw however it was not even making 275rwhp.

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/125360-sold/#findComment-2324671
Share on other sites

I make a easy 300awkw with these turbos. No idea what your problem is buddy they are among the best turbos out there for a street GTR.

Hey there Guys,

These are not HKS read the print on the side of turbo :dry:

Who told you they were HKS?

Hks does not have an equivilant to these

The ones you are refering to Geoff are the -7 that Garrett make...not -9's

Anyway having said that these Turbos are only worth $2700 approx new from suppliers

:D

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/125360-sold/#findComment-2328890
Share on other sites

Hey there Guys,

These are not HKS read the print on the side of turbo :dry:

Who told you they were HKS?

Hks does not have an equivilant to these

The ones you are refering to Geoff are the -7 that Garrett make...not -9's

Anyway having said that these Turbos are only worth $2700 approx new from suppliers

:D

Wrong.

You dont really know what you are talking about so you are out of line making such comments.

HKS turbos are based on Garrett turbos, thus the ID plate says Garrett, not HKS.

Fact: These ARE HKS GT-SS turbos

I know this not only as I use them on my own GTR, but I just verified the ID with another set I have access too.

Having said that, the price being asked by geo88 is entirely fair, and you have now been issued with a warning.

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/125360-sold/#findComment-2328926
Share on other sites

Wrong.

You dont really know what you are talking about so you are out of line making such comments.

HKS turbos are based on Garrett turbos, thus the ID plate says Garrett, not HKS.

Fact: These ARE HKS GT-SS turbos

I know this not only as I use them on my own GTR, but I just verified the ID with another set I have access too.

Having said that, the price being asked by geo88 is entirely fair, and you have now been issued with a warning.

Hi there,

Please check out the specs on the site Tuneagent , Under Garrett Turbo Chargers

Maybe I have been mislead if so sorry :) Thats where I got my facts,

Warning? What was I doing that got your back up?

Just trying to help anotherfellow Sau member.

Take care and good luck with the sale.

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/125360-sold/#findComment-2329117
Share on other sites

Hi there,

Please check out the specs on the site Tune Agent Japan, Under Garrett Turbo Chargers

Maybe I have been mislead if so sorry :) Thats where I got my facts,

Warning? What was I doing that got your back up?

Just trying to help anotherfellow Sau member.

Take care and good luck with the sale.

Tune Agent is an Australian dealer not a Japanese dealer, and they are selling Garrett GT series GT2860R turbos (that dont include wastegates either) claiming that the HKS equivilent to the Garrett they are selling, is the HKS GT-SS. This is also funny as the Garrett GT2860 is a much larger turbo than the GT-SS so its a very unaccurate comparison.

HKS GT-SS specifications, I suggest you have a read:

http://www.hks-power.co.jp/products/turbo/...ss/ac_gtss.html

You made a claim that geo88's turbos werent actually HKS GT-SS which wasnt correct, in future if you dont know for certain I suggest you dont post as its hardly fair on geo88 now is it?

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/125360-sold/#findComment-2329155
Share on other sites

Part numbers Match up. Maybe because HKS buy turbos from garret. Stick their badge on it and wastegate. Rate it 50 or so hp/ps more per turbo. Then sell it! And stings the poor person who buys it for not doing their homework! When they can get the same turbo from garret (wastegate not included). And avoid the marketing cost, extra badging cost, and repackaging cost! At the end of the day the item for sale is a HKS-GT-ss which is a Garret turbo part no. 707160-9 which is a GT2860R (without wastegate). Which is still cheap what geo88 selling it for when you add in the cost of new actuators

Edited by XSKAPE
Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/125360-sold/#findComment-2329276
Share on other sites

HKS use the housings, yes, but the internals are changed. Fin angles, spread, sizes, weights etc are generally different.

For example, the HKS item might well flow the same amount of air, but will have better response and get on boost earlier. Its the little things that make a difference. You pay the extra $$ to get on boost a few hundred RPM earlier and spool back up faster after getting off the gas.

I would love one of these GT-SS's on my SR20DET.. *drools*

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/125360-sold/#findComment-2329347
Share on other sites

Hi there,

Please check out the specs on the site Tuneagent , Under Garrett Turbo Chargers

Maybe I have been mislead if so sorry :yes: Thats where I got my facts,

Warning? What was I doing that got your back up?

Just trying to help anotherfellow Sau member.

Take care and good luck with the sale.

Tekin. I have the GT-SS on my motor, ALL HKS is made by Garrett.

Sometimes HKS use garrett comp covers/ID plates. Sometimes they do not. The GT-SS has Garrett Comp covers and Garrett ID plates.

Please dont post if your not sure of something. The other website has them listed as you can get a Garrett equivalent as the cartridge is the same. Its the wheels that are different.

If you dont believe me, you can come see them on the motor in real life, and the HKS boxes, manuals and everything else HKS that comes with them in the HKS box :D

Arkhaeon - As i stated, the cartridge is still a Garrett item, the only changes are the Turbine and the Compressor wheels in the case of GT-SS.

Hope that clears up a little more confusion.

Back to the sale, good luck as they are priced perfectly having brought some into the country myself a few months ago.

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/125360-sold/#findComment-2329609
Share on other sites

Hey everyone,

If you dont believe it is HKS or some pirated turbo so be it. As far as I am concern and my source, this is a pair of Brand New HKS GT-SS Turbo. To those who think I can just buy a pair of HKS Actuator to fit onto a Garrett turbo. Think again, do HKS sell a kit for a Skyline T3 flange garrett in the very first place?

Only those who uses GT-SS on their GTR will know it, those who dont have or just hear the who-say, please stay away if you are not interested in buying. this is buy/sell thread not a technical discussion thread. Maybe you can start a thread to find out how GT-SS look like first. hehehe

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/125360-sold/#findComment-2330539
Share on other sites

Thanks for helping up. Sometime I just dont understand why some people have no intention of buying my GT-SS but go all out to discredit what I am selling. Only those who have the turbo know the difference, those who just quote from tuneagent is only a forum hero.

As far as I know Garrett made turbo for HKS with HKS specification on the fin and turbine. And HKS use garrett cartridge which is why there is the similar in part number for it. Thanks anyway. :(

Tekin. I have the GT-SS on my motor, ALL HKS is made by Garrett.

Sometimes HKS use garrett comp covers/ID plates. Sometimes they do not. The GT-SS has Garrett Comp covers and Garrett ID plates.

Please dont post if your not sure of something. The other website has them listed as you can get a Garrett equivalent as the cartridge is the same. Its the wheels that are different.

If you dont believe me, you can come see them on the motor in real life, and the HKS boxes, manuals and everything else HKS that comes with them in the HKS box :)

Arkhaeon - As i stated, the cartridge is still a Garrett item, the only changes are the Turbine and the Compressor wheels in the case of GT-SS.

Hope that clears up a little more confusion.

Back to the sale, good luck as they are priced perfectly having brought some into the country myself a few months ago.

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/125360-sold/#findComment-2330540
Share on other sites

Hey mate,

before you shoot your mouth off, I hope you have seen a pair of original HKS GT-SS turbo with HKS box with your very own eyes and tell if it is different from the one I am selling. If you have not seen one in your eyes and just quote from some website, think again before saying the word below.

Hey there Guys,

These are not HKS read the print on the side of turbo :(

Who told you they were HKS?

Hks does not have an equivilant to these

The ones you are refering to Geoff are the -7 that Garrett make...not -9's

Anyway having said that these Turbos are only worth $2700 approx new from suppliers

:)

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/125360-sold/#findComment-2330541
Share on other sites

Ask you a question, you have a T28bb on your Sr20DET. But after that you send your turbo to be high flow by some turbo expert. So is your turbo still a T28bb? It outflow a stock T28bb with the same part no.

This is the difference between a normal Garrett turbo with same parts number with the HKS one. As for the wastegate, I dont think you can buy it off the shell just like that for the GT-SS. I know it can come as a option for the HKS GT-2530 turbo I am using though. hehehe

Part numbers Match up. Maybe because HKS buy turbos from garret. Stick their badge on it and wastegate. Rate it 50 or so hp/ps more per turbo. Then sell it! And stings the poor person who buys it for not doing their homework! When they can get the same turbo from garret (wastegate not included). And avoid the marketing cost, extra badging cost, and repackaging cost! At the end of the day the item for sale is a HKS-GT-ss which is a Garret turbo part no. 707160-9 which is a GT2860R (without wastegate). Which is still cheap what geo88 selling it for when you add in the cost of new actuators
Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/125360-sold/#findComment-2330542
Share on other sites

Dude let me get this straight, all the best with the sale, my intentions weren't to hang sh!t on your turbos. That price is a very good buy for a brand new set of HKS GT-ss.

In relation to your previous entry: So what you are saying is a HKS GT-ss is a hi flow GT2860R? As for the wastegate whats so special about a HKS wastegate? A stiffer/heavier spring? Also any manufacture will sell you anything if you have a part number or can forward you to a distributor that will supply it you. They're all out there to make money, and that's a potential sale!

Ask you a question, you have a T28bb on your Sr20DET. But after that you send your turbo to be high flow by some turbo expert. So is your turbo still a T28bb? It outflow a stock T28bb with the same part no.

This is the difference between a normal Garrett turbo with same parts number with the HKS one. As for the wastegate, I dont think you can buy it off the shell just like that for the GT-SS. I know it can come as a option for the HKS GT-2530 turbo I am using though. hehehe

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/125360-sold/#findComment-2330703
Share on other sites

I am quite sure the HKS wastegate have stiffer or heavier spring for higher boost. I dont sell HKS product or is their agent so if you are interested, please check with the HKS agent / dealer in Australia. Though I must admit, I love to use HKS turbo if the pricing is right. I am sure the price I am selling is fair and cheaper than what a lot of people are paying for down here. Take note, I am not a dealer just a private seller. hehee

As for a part number, the garrett part no. is on the turbo itself. You should be more worry if I sell a turbo without a part number. It might be some 'made in china' GT28RS that most dudes are selling on ebay. At least mine is a HKS turbo maded by Garrett. hehe

Dude let me get this straight, all the best with the sale, my intentions weren't to hang sh!t on your turbos. That price is a very good buy for a brand new set of HKS GT-ss.

In relation to your previous entry: So what you are saying is a HKS GT-ss is a hi flow GT2860R? As for the wastegate whats so special about a HKS wastegate? A stiffer/heavier spring? Also any manufacture will sell you anything if you have a part number or can forward you to a distributor that will supply it you. They're all out there to make money, and that's a potential sale!

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/125360-sold/#findComment-2330861
Share on other sites

I am quite sure the HKS wastegate have stiffer or heavier spring for higher boost. I dont sell HKS product or is their agent so if you are interested, please check with the HKS agent / dealer in Australia. Though I must admit, I love to use HKS turbo if the pricing is right. I am sure the price I am selling is fair and cheaper than what a lot of people are paying for down here. Take note, I am not a dealer just a private seller. hehee

As for a part number, the garrett part no. is on the turbo itself. You should be more worry if I sell a turbo without a part number. It might be some 'made in china' GT28RS that most dudes are selling on ebay. At least mine is a HKS turbo maded by Garrett. hehe

Yes the HKS wastegates have heavier springs....if you undo the two nuts holding the actuator diaphram to the mounting plate there will be a green or yellow dot marked with paint....green dot is a 1bar spring and a yellow dot is a 1.2bar spring. A standard wastegate actuator has a 0.6-0.7bar spring.

Just for the record....these turbo's are GENUINE HKS GT-SS items....end of story!

good luck with the sale....i may just have a buyer for these....ill let you know.

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/125360-sold/#findComment-2330955
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • Nice, thanks for sharing your progress....that's a pretty long list you are putting into it!
    • Decided to upgrade my pressurised plastic coolant expansion tank for a fancy pants alloy version The OEM versions can get brittle, even the new plastic one I got when I first got the car is a starting to show signs of "stress" I wasn't cheap, but it is basically unbreakable
    • Morning all, I have an RB25DET Neo that's in need of a rebuild. Will need new pistons etc due to detonation damage. Would anyone be able to recommend a shop in Southeast Queensland who I could bring my long motor to for a rebuild? Just want someone who knows RBs and whos built a bunch of them before. TLDR - recommended engine shops for RB rebuild.
    • Gday Thought it was about time I started a build thread! As expected this project has snowballed into a huge financial liability, but unless you’re strong willed and responsible, it’s not a surprise. Background -  My first turbo car was an R32 GTS-4, got my full license and then totalled my Au Falcon a week later, so while trying to sell my RMZ450 dirtbike to buy another car a bloke offered to swap the R32 which at the time I felt like I was ripped off but looking back and seeing prices of those now ($40kish) it was a good deal, I didn’t know enough about these cars to appreciate what I had so sold it before the RB20 blew up. Between here and there, out of 12 cars I’ve owned the note worthy ones are a V8 Lexus SC400 (soarer), a couple of XR6 Turbos and my beloved S15 which I had for about 3 years, picked it up for $12500, repairable write off but she was fine, gun metal grey/pewter and bone stock/unmolested until I got my hands on it. Ended up spending about the value of the car and 280kw, 2 demerit points by the time I got defected and sold it for $14500 (also $40kish in today’s market, rip) Fast forward to the present day, I’m in a much better position financially and daily an MQ Triton (great cars, pipe down Ranger Bois), I cruised marketplace and car sales for a few months looking for another R32, the best deal I could find was an absolute rust bucket half finished project for $12000, until this R33 popped up in Port Macquarie for $18k - unregistered and barely running but decent shape, kept an eye on it for a few weeks and the price steadily dropped, $16k then $15k then $14k, that was the point where I was like shit someone’s gonna snatch this up! It was owned by a young bloke who had big plans but him and his missus just had a baby so smartest move financially for them but big gain for me. So 2 days later I’m towing a car trailer to pick this thing up. Roughly 2 weeks and $3500 later I’m cruising around Newcastle in my beat up R33 all smiles and dose noises! It only needed some basic shit to get it going, coil packs and air flow meter, electrical stuff and all fluids changed, 158k kms and running pretty good, nice smooth engine after oil and coolant flush - when I say coolant I mean it had been filled up with tap water, every gallery and heater element was filled with rust, 8-9 flushes later and still had brown liquid coming out but she’ll be right. The car was painted R34 Bayside Blue at some point but whether it was a cheap job or just not looked after is anyone’s guess, clear coat flaking like sausage roll.  Was rethinking my choices and contemplating life, had it up for sale for $22k - still cheaper than any registered R33 but got little interest, next minute I had an opportunity at work - 6 months overseas for good money, so that was a no brainer, fast forward again and here we are with a 50% finished project. Current Mods - 200ish KW according to butt dyno Was tuned with Apexi PowerFC EBC (old school Greddy Profec)  Stock turbo (more shaft play than a Tinder date gone right) 3inch turbo back Varex muffler  Aftermarket injectors of mystery size, Power FC showed 36% duty cycle at full boost so not behd good size Someone had good intentions but stuck with the stock R33 MAF so we had misfires at 6000rpm due to the MAF hitting 5.2V So far I’ve redone the entire interior with carpet form Car Mats Direct, new Seats and steering wheel from Autotechnica, also sound system by Autobarn (mainly Kicker) Also MCA pro comfort coil overs - Hands down best purchase yet, worlds of improvement over the tired 30yrold shocks Goals - 450kw/600hp on flex tune New paint job - Midnight Purple 2 Engine is at the shop getting rebuilt with forged rods a pistons, new valves and springs, ATI Harmonic balancer, Aeroflow 7.5L sump, rear head drain and oil restrictors as per oil control thread* and cam covers modded for larger breathers, other stuff I can’t recall of the top of my head Parts purchased and to be installed once the engine is done -  Engine loom from Wiring Specialties including these options: Haltech Nexus S3 R35 Coil pack conversion  PRP Dual Trigger kit Fan controller  Other Parts -  262 Kelford Cams Turbo - Hypergear ATR43SS3-ProS with T51R mod (whistly boi) 6 boost manifold (high mount) 50mm Turbosmart Pro gate (plumbed back for legal reasons) HKS Super Turbo Exhaust with High Flow Cat Custom 3.5inch dump and front pipe 1500cc Bosch injectors  Fuel Pump walbro 525 Haltech MAP and IAT sensors Haltech Flex Sensor Fenix Radiator with dual thermo fans LS1 Alternator Kit Oil Filter Relocation from EFI solutions and Cooling pro oil cooler Many other things sitting in my garage waiting for that engine to come back. Progress pics to follow -  
    • Losses have to be less with DC coupling. Provided the battery inverter has decent MPP tracking ability - which really shouldn't be a problem. It's not 2005 any more.
×
×
  • Create New...