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Modena Grand Master

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I had a stalling problem with my car for a while and I was clueless as to why and how. Eventually it pointed to a faulty AFM. Upon opening up the AFM, we found a cracked plug with the 3 wires attached... the crack happened cos of the loose pod I had installed.

When you get a pod make sure you also get a heat shield or a brace to secure it. Itll save you the head aches later.

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someonestolecc Grand Master

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My pod was never secured onto anything other than my AFM.

I would actually say DON'T secure your pod or it will act as an engine brace when the engine (attached to the turbo and intake pipe) flexes on its mounts and braces against the mount you have.

What I would say is your AFM probably cracked because it was hitting the car and acting as an engine brace.

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My pod was never secured onto anything other than my AFM.

I would actually say DON'T secure your pod or it will act as an engine brace when the engine (attached to the turbo and intake pipe) flexes on its mounts and braces against the mount you have.

What I would say is your AFM probably cracked because it was hitting the car and acting as an engine brace.

But isn't there a rubber flexi-joint between the AFM and the turbo inlet? By your argument you couldnt secure a regular air filter box either, yet all manufacturers do.

Rhett

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I would say secure your pod, cause otherwise a cop will defect you for it as has happened to a friend of mine...we couldnt get over it, the cop is like this isnt secured, to which my friend said its plumed into the engine, its not going anywhere. Cop said has to be secured and added it to the defect list. We made up a bracket to go round it and bolted it to the chassis.

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Primordial Grand Master

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Yeah i can possibly testament to this.

I had to have my afm replaced a short time ago, and my afn/pod is loose. Not sure whether it was due to the pod flopping around or that my stocker couldnt handle to increased flow.. it just simply wasnt working properly...

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Modena Grand Master

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Yeah i can possibly testament to this.

I had to have my afm replaced a short time ago, and my afn/pod is loose. Not sure whether it was due to the pod flopping around or that my stocker couldnt handle to increased flow.. it just simply wasnt working properly...

The electrical contacts and solder break off from the flapping around...

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are you serious, isnt the factory box bolted to the car, and the AFM bolted to that, how is securing the pod & AFM any different? Most pods come with brackets.

My pod was never secured onto anything other than my AFM.

I would actually say DON'T secure your pod or it will act as an engine brace when the engine (attached to the turbo and intake pipe) flexes on its mounts and braces against the mount you have.

What I would say is your AFM probably cracked because it was hitting the car and acting as an engine brace.

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the stock intake pipe is flexable. and it IS a legal requirement for the pod to be mounted. 1 reason being that you wouldn't believe the amount of people who have their pods fall off because they are flopping around. on the magna forums there is a thread about putting chicken wire under the side of the engine to catch the pod if it falls off.

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hey don't knock magna's. i would rate them over a dunnydore, or a natro falcon.... and a natro skyline. i had a 2000 model 3.5l 5 speed, putting out about 180hp. it was as quick as my skyline (when it was still stock). only downside is the front wheel drive. but they don't torque steer much... unlike my SSS pulsar.

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Modena Grand Master

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hey don't knock magna's. i would rate them over a dunnydore, or a natro falcon.... and a natro skyline. i had a 2000 model 3.5l 5 speed, putting out about 180hp. it was as quick as my skyline (when it was still stock). only downside is the front wheel drive. but they don't torque steer much... unlike my SSS pulsar.

I drove my ex gf's 95 model Verada... arghh they had no power at all, my bro's VS commodore felt like a V8 compared to it. I dont know if they got better later on but back then they were pretty ordinary.

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what motor was it? i think 95's had the 3L, which were very ordinary. they 3.5l were a different story. 120kw for the 3L vs 147kw for the 3.5L. the 3.5's had the same power as a vs-vt commodore, but weigh a bit less, and had shorter gearing so they pulled harder.

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yeah you can get 4wd ones in the latest ones. there was a twin turbo magna putting out 350kw. 1st gear would've been useless though. i know that there are a few of the late model magnas with just full exhaust on air filters running mid to high 14's. they are very much an under rated car. if i was going to do up any late model car as a sleeper it would be a 4wd magna.

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Modena Grand Master

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Ive got a pod shoved in today with no brace, i do plan to heat shield it or brace it in the future thou...

Out of interest thou, how long did u have ur pod before u had the crack?

Hard to say but I think it was a week later I started getting problems... at first I linked it to my atmo bov, so I removed that, then there was still intermitent problems...

Secure it asap to avoid AFM problems.

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the stock intake pipe is flexable. and it IS a legal requirement for the pod to be mounted...

I have a stainless steel intake pipe, do you guys think that I still need to secure it? I have a heatshield made of firewall material around it, I'm hoping that if the reply is I have to secure it, that I can just use zip ties? :blink:

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