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MOTOR pulled off a 5.35 in a new commodore SS V last month, so i'd be surprised if they couldn't break a GTS or Clubsport into the 4.something range. And pull off a 12 second quarter. Quite impressive really, i'm itching to see how they go.

no they didn't - they quoted Holdens times.

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when will these cars stop get so powerful? when australia gets over populated and 206kw emission laws come in because no one can breathe? :(

I think there's bigger problems on our plate than air quality. Well Sydney's plate at least.. They only have enough water to last them roughly 2 years, hard times ahead for sydney. Unless there's some sort of miraculous reverse in our weather patterns and global warming, which aint going to happen any time soon.

i have been validating them both for the last 4 months, and been for a drive in most off the new hsv's and their is no way they will hit into the 12's they might have added a few more killowatts but they have also added the weight so i would expect the new GTS to do about a 13.5 or 13.6 but no way quicker than that.

The front looks as though its been ripped off from BA-BF.. wtf is with that??

Im talking from the front lights, to the grill, front lower bar design and the bonnet lines!

The back lights look shocking.. too " ricey " and too much black bits in the front left-right panels.

I wouldnt buy it.. if i had the money!

i have been validating them both for the last 4 months, and been for a drive in most off the new hsv's and their is no way they will hit into the 12's they might have added a few more killowatts but they have also added the weight so i would expect the new GTS to do about a 13.5 or 13.6 but no way quicker than that.

What’s the GTR's biggest advantage?........................yup grip. Better launch always equal better time.

The new HSV has a bigger footprint, better suspension, better dynamics, and gearbox etc. It's quite believable that it's capable of sub 5 and sub 13 sec times.

The mags have already commented on the HSV being able to do 0-100 in under 5 sec, easily.

Pictures from ls1.com.au and http://www.eastonchang.com

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Wheels magazine tested 270kW VE Calais runs 0-100km/h in 5.6 seconds and 1/4 mile in 13.9@168km/h with 6-speed auto, 245 width tyres and a 10 degree C surface temperature. Manual SS ran exact same times but 1km/h slower terminal speed.

With an extra 37kw, 275 width rear tyres and a hotter (therefore potentially sticker) road surface, I reckon sub 5.0 second passes and low 13 second times are possible for both manual and auto versions.

What’s the GTR's biggest advantage?........................yup grip. Better launch always equal better time.

The new HSV has a bigger footprint, better suspension, better dynamics, and gearbox etc. It's quite believable that it's capable of sub 5 and sub 13 sec times.

The mags have already commented on the HSV being able to do 0-100 in under 5 sec, easily.

Very true... However the perplexing part of the equation is how the motor makes little more peak power, the car weighs more yet still manages to run a quicker time.

I think it has a lot to do with the LS2's higher average power and how holden how geared the car.

I personally feel having a shorter first gear is easier to launch/lunge off the line, run a long first gear and its all too easy to either bog down or snap it in to wheel spin off the line.

holden sucks....cant be botherd going on about it, where do i begin and where do i stop?

I'd say start with what you think is so crap about the ve commodore. Look we can all really sit here all day and e-bash the commo, but Holden has spent a billion dollars creating what is in my mind, a world class car. But thats just my opinion - who says its right or wrong. Who cares for that matter

I think the HSV looks tough as!

Guys on Top Gear seem to like the Monaro and they drive the most expensive and exotic cars out there, so SOME Holdens cant be that bad. 1 Billion dollars of development on the VE has to produce something half decent, I'd drive one.

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