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Col-GTSX Grand Master

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The only reason i asked is that i bought Volk TE37's which are 9.5" wide... As i wanted the extra bite for the power my car makes... Plus of course the extra wider wheel base in terms of track use...

It just seems that allot of people are doing spacers so they can use a cheaper rims and achieve either a flush look with the guards or they want the wider wheel base...

Personally i reckon you cannot beat ray's rims to the offset that suits your application, spacers scare me...

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Ok didnt feel the need to read the whole thread but read enough to get the idea.

My parents own a tyre store here in Townsville which i used to work at. The law states that a spacer to be legal MUST be fixed to either the hub or back of the wheel. So slip on spacer ARE illegal. As far as wether spacers cause shakes or not, yes 99% of them do. but sometimes it is fixableish, but takes alot of time and a shit load of mucking around, and balancing the whell 300 times is not going to fix it. The reason being is that they (spacers) make the whole assembly (of tyre and wheel) out of round, if you jack up one corner of the car and spin the wheel you will get a high spot, this IS what causes the shake 99% of the time. But please also note that poor quality wheels that require hub rings to take up the the area where the centre hole in the wheels is not a snug fit will do exactly the same thing, and believe it or not so do poor quality tyres. Trust me i used to fix these problems every day of the week. Also there is a miss conception the wheel alignment fixes shaking problems....WRONG. A wheel alighment is there to adjust your cars wheel geometry ie caster, camber, toe, SAI etc hence the name wheel ALIGNMENT not wheel BALANCE!

Cheers Daniel

Which States Law are u quoting? In QLD it is illegal to fit spacers of any kind unless they come factory...which apparently some euro sports cars do.

Insurance companies will insure you for anything from an engine conversion to an FMIC install...but try telling them you run spacers???

Anquetil Mentor

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Well I have had some success with changing to better quality slip on spacers.

I was using ones similar to these...

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And invested in a Just Jap set, which as you can see are a much tighter fit with way more contact on the hub...

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The difference is significant! I dare say if I could fine some bolt on spacers in the size I want it would be better again.

dangerous_daveo Grand Master

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Well I have had some success with changing to better quality slip on spacers.

I was using ones similar to these...

4f_1_b.JPG

And invested in a Just Jap set, which as you can see are a much tighter fit with way more contact on the hub...

5mmspacers5stud.jpg

The difference is significant! I dare say if I could fine some bolt on spacers in the size I want it would be better again.

But the thing is the wheel still isnt supported by the hub. Thats the point of having the lip on the inside such as mine have. Which if its anything under about 15mm is the best your going to get.

9krpm Mentor

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Qld laws, If you fix the spacer to the back of the wheel it is considered part of the wheel. Unless the law has changed in the last 11 months.

can you fix the spacer to the wheels with 5 wheels studs and nuts?

they are strong enough to hold the wheel in place, they must surely be able to sandwich a little spacer

:P bloody politicians will keep changing to rules to keep them occupied while acheiving nothing!!!

arbess Experienced

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From my simple understanding, it sounds like fixed spacers; that is, ones with studs fixed to them; are the way to go.

I can see that if you fit spacers larger than 7mm, you put a stress on your STOCK studs because you essentially use 7mm less of the stud which, im no engineer, could potentially cause the wheel to get damaged/out of balance/break/fall off.... something along the lines.

I think the reason why there could be confusion in the law, and I HAVEN'T seen the modification sheet made by QLD GOVT, is because, to make it safe they need to make it clear the easy way and say they are illegal.

To me the fixed spacer idea, as long as they are of good quality, is great. To a certain size of fixed spacer, i can not see why using it would be bad at all, and of course as long as a mechanic/engineer sees it as safe.

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tgz Enthusiast

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dangerous daveo, where did you get yours done? they are quality, i wouldn't mind getting some made up if they don't cost too much?

currently i'm using some crappy 5mm slip ons due to the wheel not clearing the strut, i also have a ring in the center of the hub to make them "more hub centric".... however, no vibrations/rattles even during highway/mountain driving. i haven't had a wheel alignment since i put the wheels on, and running -2 camber on the front lol

dangerous_daveo Grand Master

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As mentioned now a few times in the thread...

"Wheel Revoultions" made them up. They were $70 each. Just go down with one of your wheel so they can measure everything up so its nice and snug. And if you havent already GET LONGER STUDS. Its a small cost, about half that of the spacers probably including a mechanic to do it all.

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I hate them, but I've got them....... And beware of ordering wheels from those "big" wheel companies in Sydney. I told them what car they were going on and was told they would fit no problems!! Bullshyt!! Wheels arrived, put them on the front and in the end they required a 7mm spacer to clear the brakes. Rang the "big" shop and complained and they said that if I paid to send them back, I could have a refund.

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