Mazda 3 Mps

[KamikazeR33]

my mums owned a m6 for a few yrs now, n personally i love it. taken it to a motorkhana n suprised quite a few ppl with how fast it does go. very keen to test out a m3mps or m6mps

[dangerous_daveo]

Can we not use the term m3 or m6... Im getting quite confused with some rather expencive cars here...

[nsanity]

i cant wait to see one of those maxda 3 turbo's worked too 250-300kw

FAAAAAAAAARRRK!

I wouldn't.

220kw is about the limit for a front wheel drive. Even prior to that you start to see hideous amounts of torque steer (plant your foot, go left!).

Its well known in the UK where they have many "hot" front wheel drives sold from manufacturers.

RWD and adjustable AWD for the win.

[Big Rizza]

The 6 MPS is still quicker to 100 and over the 1/4.

Haven't driven either of them, but independent testing shows the 3 MPS is in fact quicker...

[GT-R32]

Haven't driven either of them, but independent testing shows the 3 MPS is in fact quicker...

At least in gear I reckon a 3 MPS would take off. The launch of the 6 MPS gives it the 1/4 time advantage. Roll on would be a different story.

[INASNT]

Haven't driven either of them, but independent testing shows the 3 MPS is in fact quicker...

Latest Wheels PCOTY and other magazines say 3 is slow on both. Only time its quicker is in gear acceleration

[SimonR32]

i have personally seen a dead stock one of these keep up with a 105mph car...

it also ate a bug eye sti for lunch from 100 to 190 kmph

very very fast

[Busky2k]

^^ You sure? IIRC it can't even cut a 100mph 1/4 mile. Someone correct me on that...

[R33S2]

FWD sucks That is all.

[predator]

i have personally seen a dead stock one of these keep up with a 105mph car...

at 1400kg and 190kw, it's about the same as a stock R33, but it's not a supercar..

[GT-R32]

FWD sucks That is all.

Maybe - and not my cup of tea.

But keeping up with a GTST in an in-grear roll on and around the track deserves respect.

[Noel]

Last night at runs brand new MPS 6 straight from showroom did a 14.2

[Revhead]

Karen and I took an M3 (just for you Daveo ) MPS for a drive a week or two ago, and I have to admit I was more than a little impressed. I was a lot more impressed than I expected to be actually. That said, FWD dynamics don't really do it for me, and it apparently has a stability control thing in it, so I deliberately botched a corner entry to test it and it happily understeered towards the side of the road lol. In the rest of the corners it seemed to hang on quite well though, maybe they've tried to make the stability control not too intrusive? Powering out of a corner was frustrating but something I could live with given the rest of the package.

I thought the interior was fairly nice, the seats and pedal placement were good, the wheel is adjustable for reach and tilt and the dash is fairly easily readable. My only gripes were that some parts of the interior felt a bit cheap, and the clutch was really grabby, nearly as grabby as my old 5 puck brass button - it went from nothing to fully engaged in probably 10mm of pedal travel. This is fine if you're expecting to do a fair amount of track work or hard driving, but for a vehicle that I personally see as a quickish road car rather than something I'd be wanting to take to the track all the time, it's a bit annoying.

Gordo, peak power to weight doesn't tell the whole story, these things make stupid amounts of torque from 3k up until nearly the redline. In gear they are really quite impressive

[SimonR32]

at 1400kg and 190kw, it's about the same as a stock R33, but it's not a supercar..

many people from antilag will verfiy

[Noel]

at 1400kg and 190kw, it's about the same as a stock R33, but it's not a supercar..

but look at the 294nm of torque @ 4800rpm in R33 compared to 380nm @ 3000rpm in MPS...not that i would choose one over my R33 but its quite impressive

[GT-R32]

but look at the 294nm of torque @ 4800rpm in R33 compared to 380nm @ 3000rpm in MPS...not that i would choose one over my R33 but its quite impressive

Which indicates the Mazda 3 has a higher average power over the rev range.

[Busky2k]

Don't forget about drivetrain losses, which would be worse off with the R33. Love to see what the MPS puts out at the wheels. I'd take a stab and say at least 150fwkw.

[Richmond98]

I have a mate that works at the honda/mazda dealership. Driven The RX8 and i was fairly disapointed with it. could have been much faster.

[dangerous_daveo]

Id still go the XR5 focus hey. I just think its a better car. But I have a feeling the next round of corollas will have to have something properly decent. So lets see what they come up with.

[Noel]

Which indicates the Mazda 3 has a higher average power over the rev range.

as soon as you tramp it it goes where as in my 33 anything under 3000-3500rpm it takes a second or two to get going

still rather my car tho