Howie Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 Hey guys, Just a quick question.. i've got a greddy boost gauge that i suspect might have a fault. but i'm not too sure... so my question is , should a boost gauge read zero when not it is not connected to anything at all. mine's currently sitting at 0.5 bar. yet when it is connected up, and idling it sits on zero - however the readings appear to be far too high (around 0.9bar when it should be 0.5-0.6bar). any ideas? cheers Howie Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/136268-should-a-boost-gauge-read-zero-when-not-connected/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
white33gtst Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 when a boost guage isn't connected to anything at all it should read 0. obviously because there is no pressure going into it so there is nothing to read. when idling, the guage should sit at bout -0.5 bar i think it is, or just below it. if it is sitting at 0 when the car is on and idling, then yes there is something wrong there Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/136268-should-a-boost-gauge-read-zero-when-not-connected/#findComment-2533348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie Posted September 27, 2006 Author Share Posted September 27, 2006 damn, houston we have a problem then. i suspect my baby nephew or niece was playing around with it. LOL thanks for your help mate. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/136268-should-a-boost-gauge-read-zero-when-not-connected/#findComment-2533375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboX Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 when a boost guage isn't connected to anything at all it should read 0. obviously because there is no pressure going into it so there is nothing to read.when idling, the guage should sit at bout -0.5 bar i think it is, or just below it. if it is sitting at 0 when the car is on and idling, then yes there is something wrong there ??? On idle you have manifold VACUUM. If you Boost gauge starts its numbers at 0 then it should read 0 at idle! If your gauge starts at - something it should read the idle vacuum, mine says about -20PSI (Mazda Familiar GTX) Rev slightly and it goes from -20 to 0 then on to whatever boost I make when reving past 2000. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/136268-should-a-boost-gauge-read-zero-when-not-connected/#findComment-2533409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie Posted September 27, 2006 Author Share Posted September 27, 2006 Thanks mate, Well this is the model of the boost gauge in question. Guessing it should be a quarter way down from where it is there on idle and zero when not connected. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/136268-should-a-boost-gauge-read-zero-when-not-connected/#findComment-2533420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboX Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 The pic shows where it would be with maybe 2000rpm or not connected. It should be down much lower at idle but not sure at what number on your car. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/136268-should-a-boost-gauge-read-zero-when-not-connected/#findComment-2533470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fr0st Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 I got the exact same gauge. It sits on 500mm (ie down the bottom) at idle. You should have a little white box it connects to which should have a little knob (or equiv) you can adjust it with, either that or its on the back of the gauge. I didn't install mine so I'm not sure exactly where it is Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/136268-should-a-boost-gauge-read-zero-when-not-connected/#findComment-2533476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie Posted September 27, 2006 Author Share Posted September 27, 2006 Thanks heaps guys. Just having a chat to satanic just then, and he's theory seems to fit in best, the face plate may have rotated when i put the gauge in the a-pillar (it was a bitch to fit in and i was grabbing and twisting the hell out of the thing). I'll check it out again tonight. Cheers again guys most helpful bunch over at sau. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/136268-should-a-boost-gauge-read-zero-when-not-connected/#findComment-2533481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB SANDY Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 Hi a mate had a autometer boost gauge and it showed 2 psi up, but in the instructions It tells you to undo a screw to set in back to 0 they do this because to the pressure when transport e.g., plane and the difference in other countries. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/136268-should-a-boost-gauge-read-zero-when-not-connected/#findComment-2533545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanyou Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 interesting... my mech oil temp gauge sits at 60degrees unless it gets hotter.. so let me know how u fixed it so i can adjust mine also also my water temp doesnt work at all and YES i connected it up properly lol Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/136268-should-a-boost-gauge-read-zero-when-not-connected/#findComment-2533569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddr20 Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 however the readings appear to be far too high (around 0.9bar when it should be 0.5-0.6bar). got full exhaust?? If so, then the boost will increase slightly.. Got boost controller of any sort?? Then maybe it has been boosted.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/136268-should-a-boost-gauge-read-zero-when-not-connected/#findComment-2533572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Baron Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 first things first. is it a mechanical guage or electric? ie. does it run a vacuum line to the back of the gauge? if it's mechanical it should read "0" when car is switched off, or gauge is not connected. if it's electric it should just fall to the 6 oclock position. the mechanical gauges have a bourbon tube in them, these can get damage and it tends to happen when they have been removed/replaced. was the guage new or second hand? the face does not rotate so it would not have moved during your installation into the a pillar. sadly if it is damaged it's most likely a throw away. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/136268-should-a-boost-gauge-read-zero-when-not-connected/#findComment-2533601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie Posted September 27, 2006 Author Share Posted September 27, 2006 Gidday guys, Yep it's a mechanical - has a turbo/split dump pipe, but the restriction's in the rest of the system. No boost controller, so no way it'd be running 0.9bar. I think i'll have to adjust it like you say. let you know how i go. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/136268-should-a-boost-gauge-read-zero-when-not-connected/#findComment-2533612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkyb0y Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 i have a spare mech boost guage (splitfire) that was reading -10 when disconnected. i pulled it apart, not easy as it was not meant to be opened, and there's a weight on a coiled spring that moves thru pressure entering the nipple. if you can get it open, move that weight around slightly with ur finger, and you will see the needle sitting at different spots. once u get it to zero, it should be good to go. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/136268-should-a-boost-gauge-read-zero-when-not-connected/#findComment-2533705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie Posted September 27, 2006 Author Share Posted September 27, 2006 Just having a look, this ain't gonna be easy to open. I'll need some sort of special tool to take the special bolts off at the end of each of those threads. But i'll see if i can do it with a few mobile phone toolsets. Thanks again. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/136268-should-a-boost-gauge-read-zero-when-not-connected/#findComment-2534155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkyb0y Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 is there anyway you can take the glass/rim off the front? that's how i did mine. taking those bolts out wont help, not on mine anyway. i bent the bezel lip slightly and slipped the rim off. then undo that bolt around the nipple(where the hose goes), and the face comes out in one piece. I didnt really care if i broke it or not, coz it was a spare, but it works now. keep in mind, that's how mine opened/worked. i'm not familiar with yours, i'm just assuming that they all work the same. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/136268-should-a-boost-gauge-read-zero-when-not-connected/#findComment-2534232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie Posted September 27, 2006 Author Share Posted September 27, 2006 (edited) I started taking it out from the front, then scratched it and thought to myself I really should exhaust all other options first. Anyhow it'll probably be binned or relegated to a playstation cabinet if it's not fixed. Edit : Thinking about it logically, it must be assembled from the front in the factory, so naturally you'd think it'd come out from the front also. Edited September 27, 2006 by Howie Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/136268-should-a-boost-gauge-read-zero-when-not-connected/#findComment-2534238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkyb0y Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 fck it, you know what, i'm gonna go pull mine apart and take pics to show u what i mean. since taking it off the first time, it's not so hard anymore Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/136268-should-a-boost-gauge-read-zero-when-not-connected/#findComment-2534249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie Posted September 27, 2006 Author Share Posted September 27, 2006 Please don't go too far out of your way buddy. If it's a hassle, i'll try to work it out from your instructions. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/136268-should-a-boost-gauge-read-zero-when-not-connected/#findComment-2534264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkyb0y Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 (edited) Na, it's no trouble. Have done it several times now. Got pics for you here with some explanations. If you can find another way, or other advice, try it. Coz you will damage the bezel getting it off, but try keep the damage to the back so you dont see it. Ignore the duct tape in the first pic, that's just to hold it in it's cup tightly, not a result from taking it apart, lol. Edited September 27, 2006 by Munkyb0y Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/136268-should-a-boost-gauge-read-zero-when-not-connected/#findComment-2534374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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