Viper 791xv's From The US

[funkymonkey]

Hey guys, looking to get an alarm for the latest R32... I'm partial to DEI products as I've had good experiences with them on previous cars, like their expandability, support network and features.

As such, I have access to the 791XV at wholesale price through a mate who works at DEI, but what "alarmed" me was the fact that you could buy the same alarm form the US and have it shipped here for about 2/3rds the price of the one sold here.

Now my mate from DEI has filled me in on the differences in parts, the fact that they are B Grade alarms made for distribution in parts of the world like Mexico etc, and if there are any faults that DEI australia will not touch them even if you pay them to fix it.

What I want to know is if anyone in Australia has actually ordered one of these overseas units, and if they've had any issues with them, reliability etc. More than keen to find out if it is worth saving a couple of hundred bucks on a product of the same specifications as the locally sold model.

The whole thing sounds very similar days back when owning an import was frowned on because "they're cars made for another country, and they don't have warranties in Australia, no support, no one will ever fix em etc."... now working for a car importer and helping run a forum for imports I know how bollocks that statement turned out to be.

[Chris Rogers]

I'll leave this alone. 480V is a better item though.

[Chris Rogers]

also the local item comes with a battery backup siren the import one doesn't. the siren supplied is tiny.

[raz0r$harP.UK]

You getting one for insurance purposes Shan?

[funkymonkey]

I'll leave this alone. 480V is a better item though.

will look at the 480V. shopping around atm. I have a shortlist of what I need in an alarm. And as I said I would prefer a DEI alarm as i've got some mates who are DEI technicians and salespeople.

Just trying to sus out if this import unit is as good as the local one.

also the local item comes with a battery backup siren the import one doesn't. the siren supplied is tiny.

AFAIK almost all DEI products use the same interface and control module, so a battery backup siren from a local "brain" unit will work with the import one right?

You getting one for insurance purposes Shan?

Not particularly, as my insurance company just needs a single point immobiliser and don't even require black wiring... which was odd, but I got them to write it on the contract, just so there was no confusion on the matter when it came time to claim.

In any case, after talking to my mates who work for DEI a bit more, after all the name calling and threats of not coming to anything I invite em to if I bought the import unit, I'll probably end up with a locally sold DEI

ATM I've been recommended a 460XV (blackwired) or 560XV (regular) from Viper, or a Hornet 563T...

Need remote start, plus maybe windows up/down for ventilating the car before getting in, and I don't need 2 way communication... might get GPS/GSM later down the track as an add on module (I've been told these ones are compatible). Need it to work with the turbo timer (or have one inbuilt) and possibly have some aux outputs for further addon modules in the future. Oh and I like simple remotes that don't get pressed while in your jeans.... not ones that you can play tetris on. Simple arm, disarm, windows up/down, remote start is all I need on my alarm.

[Chris Rogers]

will look at the 480V. shopping around atm. I have a shortlist of what I need in an alarm. And as I said I would prefer a DEI alarm as i've got some mates who are DEI technicians and salespeople.

Just trying to sus out if this import unit is as good as the local one.

AFAIK almost all DEI products use the same interface and control module, so a battery backup siren from a local "brain" unit will work with the import one right?

Not particularly, as my insurance company just needs a single point immobiliser and don't even require black wiring... which was odd, but I got them to write it on the contract, just so there was no confusion on the matter when it came time to claim.

In any case, after talking to my mates who work for DEI a bit more, after all the name calling and threats of not coming to anything I invite em to if I bought the import unit, I'll probably end up with a locally sold DEI

ATM I've been recommended a 460XV (blackwired) or 560XV (regular) from Viper, or a Hornet 563T...

Need remote start, plus maybe windows up/down for ventilating the car before getting in, and I don't need 2 way communication... might get GPS/GSM later down the track as an add on module (I've been told these ones are compatible). Need it to work with the turbo timer (or have one inbuilt) and possibly have some aux outputs for further addon modules in the future. Oh and I like simple remotes that don't get pressed while in your jeans.... not ones that you can play tetris on. Simple arm, disarm, windows up/down, remote start is all I need on my alarm.

want some part numbers?

[funkymonkey]

want some part numbers?

yes please.

[Chris Rogers]

ok in sequence:

460V

551T

530T

GiSMo

and if you need more than 2 o/p

450R (that nets 6!)

remotes on 460v will do nicely.

if you want I can gt htem or you can talk to DEI in mlb (who I think you are taking to anyway.)

[Chris Rogers]

also its best to do the GSM when you do the alarm- it makes wiring a LOT easier to do.

[K N P]

how much did your friend say he could get the 791xv locally for at wholesale price?

[95SKY]

I had a 791XV from the US. Absoloute Cr@p. I had it installed professionaly, 3 months later it had thrown in the towel just cr@p in my opionion. I would not touch them.

Thanks

[Danny Mack]

Hey mate,

I brought a 791XV from the US almost a year ago and its been great. Although the boys from autobahn are all negative cause they are losing buisness. i paid $300 on ebay for it, where as the ones autobahn sell are about $999. when i did have it install by autobahn they screwed me around, and f**k*d up the central locking. I looked into it my self and fixed it.

Remote start is awsome, (as long as you dont leave your car in gear!), turbo timer workes great in it, aswll as all the other features. Ive had it for a yr and had no problems, but doesnt mean it might stuff up in 2 weeks time. i couldnt justify spending over a thousand dollars, when i could get the same thing for $300.

[Chris Rogers]

betcha I can drive your car away

[funkymonkey]

well in the end I actually ended up getting the US 791XV off ebay. Ironically one of the tech's for DEI Oz installed it for me... hehe...

we found that the Bitwriter for the Aussie ECU's don't work with the US unit... so basically had to get a different EEPROM for the Bitwriter so it could communicate with the unit, other than that it works identically to the Aussie one.

So far it works real well. Took out the turbo timer and now use the alarm as one... hardly ever need it as I don't drive it in anger shortly before I have to stop the car. Remote start works great... had to get a slave actuator for the driver door on the R32, that was the only issue as far as installation was concerned. It dosen't come with a battery backup siren, so had to get one as well.

My only complaints are that the remote is a chunky mofo, esp cos it houses a AAA battery. Apparently the first version of this alarm drained the batteries real quick, but the current ones are more efficient. Also the alarm comes with only one remote, but my mates are hookin me up with a non LCD (ie 1way) secondary remote... just in case I happen to lock my 2way one in the car

If it f**ks up, then I'll just buy another alarm. At AUD$250 delivered its an experiment I'm willing to try out. As for coloured harness wiring etc, the only reason the alarm's there is to act as a deterrant. I also have a kill switch and a secondary immobiliser which we custom wired in, so its not gonna get stolen in a hurry just by messing with the alarm unit.

What my mates were tellin me was that most of the times the alarms fail due to bad installations... if they're done properly then they shouldn't fail in the next couple of years, and I don't really plan to have my car or my alarm any longer than that

[EliteGTR]

Hey, was browsing through and noticed this post. What makes the DEI stuff in the US different then DEI Aus? I know here in the US we have installed many DEI units here and cant really say that we run into problems with them. I have worked for stereo shops and have 2 friends who have there own shops as well. We only use DEI. I had them in several of my cars and never had any problems. I think like someone said it all about the installer. Dam, you guys pay alot for them over there. crazy.

I have been trying to find the wiring diagram for a 91 R32 GTR to put an alarm here. Just want to know if you guys know where I can find this. Just makes it easier to install instead of testing the wires. Cant seem to find this.

Thanks, Appreciate it.

[Chris Rogers]

Hey, was browsing through and noticed this post. What makes the DEI stuff in the US different then DEI Aus? I know here in the US we have installed many DEI units here and cant really say that we run into problems with them. I have worked for stereo shops and have 2 friends who have there own shops as well. We only use DEI. I had them in several of my cars and never had any problems. I think like someone said it all about the installer. Dam, you guys pay alot for them over there. crazy.

I have been trying to find the wiring diagram for a 91 R32 GTR to put an alarm here. Just want to know if you guys know where I can find this. Just makes it easier to install instead of testing the wires. Cant seem to find this.

Thanks, Appreciate it.

funky,

your mates are correct. install is everything. that said I have a local bit writer and it will do all the units O/S and here.

elite. fire me a DIRECT email (in sig) and I'll help you.