Is This A Smart Move?

[silver gts-t]

i think u should swap!

[kjb_r33]

Ive got a 33, a 32 and a tt300zx. I think the ZX is a great car to drive, but it took me 2 hours the other day to change the cam gears on my R32, that was belt and harmonic balancer off. Took me 5 hours to do the timing belt on the z. as i said though, its a awesome car. Choice has to ultimatly be yours. I just paid 9500 for mine (wifes actually), 93 model, 72000k's, 2 seater, leather interior, FMIC, all adjustable aftermarket suspension, ABS, climate and cruise control, DVD and TV, 2 oil coolers with remote mounted filter, 18" wheels and so on, there is cheaper good Z's for sale.

Edited October 3, 2006 by kjb_r33

[Beef]

ok, so what sort of cash would make this an EVEN swap?

He also said teh knock sensor is gone.. what implications does this have?

[R31Nismoid]

something different... dont go backwards

[Munkyb0y]

been said 100 times, but here it is again. zeds are expensive to maintain. no one wants to work on them coz they are so time consuming and charge accordingly, and some parts can be a long wait to find.

they're also getting older and cheaper now, so if you want it, i suggest you ask for cash on top.

i considered getting one a little while ago, and did alot of test driving and research. there are alot of dodgy ones around, and they are starting to show their age, wear and tear.

they are a totally different car to drive. i like them, but in the end, skyline FTW.

[n15m0]

I see u've also asked the opinion from NS.com...

Its general concensus if you swap ur a bloody idiot

j/ks

[dangerous_daveo]

I'll share a story. My mechanic had to work on one, quite a bit. He liked it the first 5 times as he made so much money removing the engine, by the 3rd time he had sussed it out pretty good. After then he just got sick of doing it. At $1200 a pop (removale and putting it back) it aint cheap. Thats just before being able to do any work on it... Note the over 5 times...

Then someone rang him up, and asked if a 300zx would be a good car to modify, and would he be able to work on it. My mechanic said, if you buy one of those stupid things, do not come here.

Seriously they are the devils car. But still better than a Lada.

[Beef]

I see u've also asked the opinion from NS.com...

Its general concensus if you swap ur a bloody idiot

j/ks

ha ha, cheers mate

but somone still hasnt gievn me a $ value that would make it an even trade...

[n15m0]

the 300zx + 10K cash on top should make it pretty even trade with ur 33

[**JaR**]

the 300zx + 10K cash on top should make it pretty even trade with ur 33

lol werd

[eMsta]

TT 300 about 14000? Therefore maybe he should give you $6k on top - assuming your car is worth 20,000

[LightAssassin]

My manager at my previous work had one, pimping 450hp.... I was not a fan.

Pro

Cheap to buy

Kinda look cool with the right kits

Targa top (if that's your kind of thing)

Con

Turning left isn't as good as turning right (weird hey)

Targa top (makes the body flex more)

Shit to work on (or expensive to get somebody else)

Most places simply refuse to work on them

Hard to modify

At least twice the price to make skyline performance with equiv mods

Old

No space for such a large car

Heavy... very heavy

It's not a smart move.... but the trade would be ~8-10k your way. I use to be a 300zx fan... until I drove one.

I'm guessing you want forced induction so why not look at:

S14/S14A (gts-t skyline in 4 banger form)

WRX (AWD 4 banger turbo but weak gearbox)

Pulsar GTIR (GTR in 4 banger form)

Toyota MR2 SW20 Turbo (2 seater, turbo action)

Toyota Soarer TT (luxury, beautiful inside, but must get manual)

R32 GTR (awd TT mosnter)

180SX Type R (S14 in sex form)

RX7 (fast and fun... but rebuilds and fuel)

I would go for all of those over a Zed... but careful with GTIR with clutch... it's exxy as engine has to be removed. Soarer is the toyota Zed only without the bad... except for the heavy.

Good luck, hope you enjoy what ever you choose!

[ctjet]

Toyota MR2 SW20 Turbo (2 seater, turbo action)

got it right there... :sorcerer:

Want something exiting get an MR2 turbo: light, fun, good looking, toyota reliability and seriously fast with the right mods!! mid engine FTW baby...

[silver gts-t]

omg, im not the sort of person to really care about a topic..

but dude.. everyone here has hinted to not buy the 300, yet you still ask for a price? why? if after all this you still want it then you must really like it (some how), so just swap..

[n15m0]

the best swap I ever did was my 1991 CA18DE Silvia with some dudes 1990 U13 AWD Atessa bluebird with SR20DET, FMIC, exhaust and custom paint...it was a straight swap.....now THAT was a good swap

[MattD]

So much misinformation regarding the reliability of the zed.

Like any car, if it's looked after, it'll look after you.

If the zed has a service history and you give it a thorough inspection then you shouldn't have any dramas.

My best freind has a zed, lightly modded, hasn't missed a beat.

My now deceased uncle who had a 300zx good for around 600hp, which he died in , had no problems with it either.

Sure they are labour intensive but like any majormechanical repair, it's the difference between a $1200 r & r to a $1500 r & r.

Someone said earlier that the targa top is detrimental to torsional strength, 100% not true, it's reinforced up the wazoo but this does make the car heavier.

300zx's have a timeless super car look, once you ditch the orange in the tail lights and side indicators, slap on a wing west kit or some such they are a total head turner.

Skylines on the other hand, r33s are the new VL, your car doesn't appeal to me in anyway, not saying it's a bad car, modifying is a very personal thing.

I'm not a fan of the kit, the copious amounts of mesh and the stickers also the fundamentals you have over looked like ditching the orange indicators and wheels that don't accent the car.

At the end of the day you'll both struggle to get your asking price.

I'd say go for it.

[MK2]

the best swap I ever did was my 1991 CA18DE Silvia with some dudes 1990 U13 AWD Atessa bluebird with SR20DET, FMIC, exhaust and custom paint...it was a straight swap.....now THAT was a good swap

Yeah for him, he'll never get booked speeding

One thing I never liked about targa tops was the fact that at about this age they do tend too perish, leak and it can be expensive/annoying too find decent seals for them.

Stick with the 33 IMO for the reasons other people mentioned, I guess if you wanted something 'different' a N/A, Mk4 supra or something with the 3L motor isnt a bad car and easier too live with mechanically.

[bilbo117]

Dude.

f**k the 300.

timeless looks? my ass, 300's lok like burnt hairs on a turd, your skyline has so much more cred. why do you want to swap?

the only thing a 300 has going for it is its low Center of Gravity.

And on another note, the idiot who said the UAS 300zx is nothing, doesnt know shit. its quick for what it is.

But if you want value for money... stick with the 33.

Peace out whitey,

Billiam.

(not pissed as a mofo while writing this.)

[MFC05]

I had a 300zx Twin Turbo for while they are great cars, very smooth power throughout the rev range.

It was a very comfortable car to drive and use as a daily.

I had the 300zx for over 6 months i didnt have a single problem with the car.

The car was very reliable.

R33 S2 would be worth more than 300zx i wouldnt do a straight swap, i would want about at least 1500-2000 cash from him.

[Beef]

cheers boyz....

thast all good info, i think you may have saved me from making a big mistake....