Fuel Saving Devices

[PuppaDuck]

Has anyone looked into these before ?

I saw 2 mentioned on Today Tonight a little while ago...

www.fuelstar.com.au and www.fitchcatalyst.com.au

Both claim to treat petrol so that it burns cleaner and more consistent so you experience an increase in fuel economy, more power, and less emmissions (maybe its possible to toss the CAT out ?)

Two applications...an inline one that you hook up like a petrol filter by breaking the fuel line and clamping both sides to it...

the other is by dropping a few pieces of metal into your tank...

I'm not sure if these things are only talk, but they sound great...

I guess I'd be happier if NRMA, autospeed, etc reviewed them and tested them...

at the moment they only have international organisations reviews, etc...

I was thinking of buying one for the bike or a small hatchback to test it out on - before I killed my R33s engine with it...

I am also interested if anyone thinks they can help organise to get them to give us one for free to thoroughly test the product more than their 90 days return guarantee allows...

I am also a little pessimistic about the inline version as it looks like it'll restrict our fuel flow...else we'd have to buy their truck version which is close to a grand...

Anyway, has anyone tried these, read about these or know the science behind them ????

I would love to get one if it works - before my next tune...

[DennisRB30]

http://board.performanceforums.com/forums/...hlight=Fuelstar

[SKYLINED]

It says it coats the metal chamber in tin oxide

I think tin is in the LRP and replaced lead, apparently it boosts the octane rating.

Any ideas petrochemical engineers????

[nismoman18]

they prolly do jackshit man, i just buy octane booster everytime i fill!

[DennisRB30]

"A fool and their money are easily parted"

[PuppaDuck]

I spoke to a guy who has used them extensively on his customers cars. Actually he called me on my mobile from his home (after hours) and spoke to me for over an hour about the product, his experiences, results, etc

Not many people would clock up their home phone bills for something dodgy...

When I asked him why NRMA never reviewed it, he told me they tried to once and reckon it didn't work. The story goes - you need to install this sucker to something that touches your engine, as the more vibrations the device experiences, the better it works...

That is why they specifically say to install it in the engine bay and on/near the engine...

Most people go home and install it in the boot near their fuel pump, but that part of the car is pretty smooth, so it doesn't do much at all back there...

Taking this into account, the reason why the NRMA boys couldn't get it to work - they had it hooked up sitting on the floor !

Makes me think about all those assumptions we make because we think competant experts are telling us what to think...then you look behind the curtain and see some ignorant humble fool...

I guess the fact that the whole system gets coated in tin and reduces pinging would be enough to make me want to try it...

Still haven't heard anything from anyone who might be in the know...be it mechanics, petrochemists, metallurgists...

[PuppaDuck]

An interesting snippet of a story I found on a similar device called the polariser :

" Specifically, the sticking point was Brock's embrace of the controversial polariser. This little device, said Brock, effectively tuned the molecules into one another and made a more powerful, efficient and "together" car.

Tosh, said Holden.

Plenty has been written about the split (Bill Tuckey's "The Rise and Fall of Peter Brock" is required reading on the topic) but Holden essentially told Brock that if he went ahead with the Director and the polariser, he could forget about any more Holden cars to modify. "

[fairfax.com.au]

[PuppaDuck]

[A further interesting read into that article]

" The Director was a bit of a non-starter. The high purchase price limited demand and ensured only a handful were built. But the "mainstream" Brock model of the time was the VL Group A; a dark red, be-spoilered, V8-powered road weapon that was vintage Brock.

It was also contemporary Brock, because that pesky polariser turned up in the specification. What Brock did was specify two distinct Group As. One was the standard car with no polariser, the second was called the Group A Plus Pack, which had the polariser fitted under the bonnet and an "antenna'' that looked suspiciously like a decal (and rumored to be fitted on the bootlid, under the spoiler on some cars).

And that was about it. Several hundred extra dollars bought the polariser and little more. Except it also bought Brock's signature.

Without the Plus Pack fitted, Brock refused to put his signature decal on the car; for some buyers, that made the polarised version mandatory in order to ensure the car was a real Brock Commodore. "

[PuppaDuck]

Just in...

Apparently car manufacturers are starting to use these devices...

[NA_R33]

cheers for all the info dude. ill talk to my dad about it when i get a chance as he has a degree in metalurgy (spelling) and see what he has to say about it.

[DennisRB30]

Have you read all the info in my link and gone to all the links in that?

[nismoman18]

Its a waste of money man, its just like when ppl say POD filters and Extractors save u petrol, in reality u end up using the car more and use it harder and it costs more so if u buy one i can see u using more petrol cos u think it saves u petrol!

[PuppaDuck]

I think I'm gonna try the one that offers the pellets you drop into the tank...someone reliable has to do it, so it may as well be me...

you get enough for a consistent use, which is a lot for just the R33, so I'll toss one into my bike as well and see what becomes of it...if there is gonna be any difference, I'll notice it far more on the bike...

if I remain sceptical and unimpressed, I'll return it within 90 days as guaranteed...

just gotta try and figure out how I can secure them so I can easily pull them back out of the tank again with string or similar...

[nismoman18]

arent they meant to dissolve ?

[DennisRB30]

LOL