DFAULT Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Hey was just wondering much psi can stock r32/r33 bov handle looking to run 1.1-1.2 bar Cheers Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/144171-how-much-psi-can-stock-r32r33-bov-handle/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
fEkuaR Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Heywas just wondering much psi can stock r32/r33 bov handle looking to run 1.1-1.2 bar Cheers I dont believe you'll have any dramas at all at that boost level. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/144171-how-much-psi-can-stock-r32r33-bov-handle/#findComment-2691786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFAULT Posted November 21, 2006 Author Share Posted November 21, 2006 sweet, thanks Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/144171-how-much-psi-can-stock-r32r33-bov-handle/#findComment-2692121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTRNUR Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 In theory it should handle any boost level I would have thought. The valve has the same pressure on both sides of it at all times when your on boost. Only when shifting can it be a problem, and event then the down side is that the bov doesn't flow enough to allow it to stop a pressure spike back through the intake plumbing and reducing turbine speed. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/144171-how-much-psi-can-stock-r32r33-bov-handle/#findComment-2692181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
salad Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 But are the 2 surface areas the same? More surface area = more force Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/144171-how-much-psi-can-stock-r32r33-bov-handle/#findComment-2692189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SECURITY Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 ive been told the standard bov will leak at 14psi, when i got my car tuned by hitman he said i had a boost leak somewhere and all of my pipes were perfect. i bought a 2nd hand gtr bov which can handle way past 1 bar Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/144171-how-much-psi-can-stock-r32r33-bov-handle/#findComment-2692207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Does the gtr bov bolt up with no mods or? I recently blocked the std bov's bleed hole and boost went up a psi. GTS4Newbie, Only when shifting can it be a problem, and event then the down side is that the bov doesn't flow enough to allow it to stop a pressure spike back through the intake plumbing and reducing turbine speed. Give this a shot.. Block your bov off. Run no bov. Take it for a drive and experience your turbo doing the exact opposite as to what you suggest. The car really does get up and go much quicker after a gear change when running no bov. My own thoughts are that yes there is a pressure spike but not having the bov release the pressure essentially prevents the lag that you experience with a bov when the turbo has to spin up and fill the ic piping and fmic again. With no bov the majority of the air is still there so the turbo quickly spins up a little and is up on boost quicker. This is what I experienced. Give it a shot. I did however experience a horrible jerky driveability issue when changing gears at part throttle and low rev's. Changing up at 3500rpm or so and driveability was fine. I also had the odd stall under certain circumstances but nothing I couldn't work around. The results with the blocked off bov were that good that I'm tempted to put up with the jerkyness when changing up at 7psi or so with part throttle at 2000rpm. It really did feel like it was instantly on boost when grabbing the next gear. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/144171-how-much-psi-can-stock-r32r33-bov-handle/#findComment-2692220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpus Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 A gtr bov will bolt up...only thing that you'll need to do is get a larger diameter plumback pipe... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/144171-how-much-psi-can-stock-r32r33-bov-handle/#findComment-2692516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazza08 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Anythin above 15psi the bov will leak and not do its job! My changes are so much smoother with a decent bov + plumback section set up, mind you i do run 20psi through a bigger turbo which is producin alot more air-flow than the stocker would! If you are runnin 1+ bar id change it even on stock turbo... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/144171-how-much-psi-can-stock-r32r33-bov-handle/#findComment-2692533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_8OO5TED_ Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 If you are runnin 1+ bar id change it even on stock turbo... If your running 1+ bar on a stock turbo, you'll need Gilly out back to catch that turbo wheel! I have heard of several stock GTS-t BOVs dying on not much more than 12psi so I would upgrade to GTR or aftermarket for 1bar+. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/144171-how-much-psi-can-stock-r32r33-bov-handle/#findComment-2692544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 A gtr bov will bolt up...only thing that you'll need to do is get a larger diameter plumback pipe... Top stuff. I will look in to it. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/144171-how-much-psi-can-stock-r32r33-bov-handle/#findComment-2692647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faid Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Well guys i run the stock GTR plumb backs, and i boost nearly 2 bars. so the GTR BOV does its job in my application, it flows enought to take 23psi of T04Z pressure, cuz i dont get any surge issues. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/144171-how-much-psi-can-stock-r32r33-bov-handle/#findComment-2692655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad082 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 it depends on the condition of the bov. some may hold 1 bar. others may leak at lower. personally i'd run a different bov (either gtr or aftermarket) at that sort of level. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/144171-how-much-psi-can-stock-r32r33-bov-handle/#findComment-2692764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grigor Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 My son and I tested his stock BOV on his R33. We made up bungs, plugs etc, removed the BOV recirc. pipe and pumped up the complete inlet pipework including FMIC to 2.0+bar. Results were fine. Just a slight leak which remained at 2.0bar or 0.5bar. Then we swapped the BOV for my old R32's one and exactly the same story. With ingenious valving we snapped the BOV open and shut and the tiny amount of leaking continued, it's only a metal to metal valve seat after all. At 1.3bar, his 2835 had heaps in reserve to more than compensate for the BOV leak, but if you're pushing a stock turbo to 1.0+bar, you'll have more to worry about than a BOV leak. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/144171-how-much-psi-can-stock-r32r33-bov-handle/#findComment-2692838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 grigor, Did you plug up the std bovs bleed hole? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/144171-how-much-psi-can-stock-r32r33-bov-handle/#findComment-2692847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grigor Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Did you plug up the std bovs bleed hole? No, the BOV was as installed but with the recirc. hose off so we could gauge how much air was leaking. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/144171-how-much-psi-can-stock-r32r33-bov-handle/#findComment-2692976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
raist60 Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 Did you plug up the std bovs bleed hole?No, the BOV was as installed but with the recirc. hose off so we could gauge how much air was leaking. I run a std r33 bov on my car which runs up to 20psi. Its simple physics unless the bov is completely f**ked it cant possibly leak. The plenum side has pressure on a larger area than the pre-throttle body pressure, it cant leak. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/144171-how-much-psi-can-stock-r32r33-bov-handle/#findComment-2697819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 The std bovs do leak slightly as they are designed to. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/144171-how-much-psi-can-stock-r32r33-bov-handle/#findComment-2697936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad082 Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 there are benefits of leaving that hole unblocked. 1 is that when at WOT there is a small amount of air being released through it back into the intake. this negates a vacuum effect happening which would suck the bov open at higher boost pressure. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/144171-how-much-psi-can-stock-r32r33-bov-handle/#findComment-2698173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 hrmm not so sure on that theory Mad082. If there was enough vac to over come the spring pressure + the added equalised boost pressure some thing would be quite wrong with the intake pipe. From my own experience all it does is smooth out throttle making it nicer to drive, with the blocked its very on/off and can cause a bit of a jolt under certain circumstances. With it blocked it makes boost earlier and without touching anything else it makes 1psi more once on boost. It also won't release the bov when making boost at say 1/2 throttle then backing off to 1/4 throttle, the turbo just keeps boosting, very noticeable driving up hills as its difficult to keep off boost where as before cruise up a hill and providing acceleration was steady it would be off boost. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/144171-how-much-psi-can-stock-r32r33-bov-handle/#findComment-2698203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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