Dilema - Cold Air - Stock Box - Defect - EPA

[DREMEN]

Here is the short story:

* R33 Skyline

* Had a pod filter

* Defected

* EPA emissions test -> passed

* Back to EPA for exhaust retest and he checked I had the stock box back in

* EPA threatened me with a $5k fine & court apperance if I get caught again

So now what do I do??

The stock box makes the car feel a little sluggish

[Secoh]

put the pod in the standard air box

which state are you in? In NSW the law got changed yet again stating that pods are ok...so I have NFI whats going on these days

[Guest RedLineGTR]

have you changed the stock box filter, to like i better flowing one, like k&N which are common, most jap companys make panel filters as well as pods if you were after something more big brand. You could also ask the epa about getting a CAI box made up for your pod, most people are getting away with pods like that.

[Airzone]

Secoh - So it's now legal to have a pod filter in NSW? When was that changed?

[Secoh]

I havent confirmed this myself so dont argue with a cop or anything but apparently it got changed a month or so back.

but it may also be different state by state....

[DREMEN]

Nah its illegal.......... I got done for it by the EPA a few weeks ago

[craz0]

What about Qld does anyone know?

I have been told that they are illegal and I've also been told that they are legal, then again I've been told by my local inspection centre that they have never heard of a Pod filter.

I don't think they now what they are talking about half the time, it all depends on who you get and what they now or what they think they know

[akeenan]

if the car feels slugish add more power/money, get where im coming from?

[Doctor]

I beleive the only legal pod filter is K&N but you have to have it secured to the body. This is only what I have heard.

I have a k&n panel filter and it works heaps better than my huge pod that I had.

[Guest INASNT]

u can get those paper pods from auto1 which are epa legal.

[NO_RSPECT]

Why dont you keep the stock box in there, replace the filter with a k&n. secure the front air intake to it if you dont have one and then direct a similar cold air feed to the other side of the lid that runs to the front of the car. that should improve the throttle response a little bit and the car shouldn't feel all that sluggish with the extra colder air.

lata

[Ash]

i got an apexi pod filter in a carbon fibre box, is this legal? im in NSW.

Thanks!

[NismoR34]

I have heard that in VIC you are allowed 1 intake mod, so you can have a pod but it must NOT be made of foam and it must also NOT be an oiled type pod - so any brand fitting this description is ok in Victoria - this info was passed on by fellow members who have spoken directly with the authorities!

btw FMIC [aftermarket] and boost increase are INTAKE mods...

[Secoh]

FWIW I couldnt buy a stock paper filter for my R32 GTSt but I discovered that it's exactly the same as a VL commodore/RB30 skyline filter. Dunno if anyone else has come across this or not.

[NismoR34]

Secoh, its the same as 33 / 34 too in that case - the filter number is actually A360 and they are as common as muck! VN>VR commo is same too I believe, they are readily available throughout Victoria and I assume Oz too. Pulsar N14 / N15 and Pintara TRX are also the same...the list goes on...Nissan even sell them brand new!

[JimX]

Dremen, did you find out why the pod filter was illegal? Was it due to emissions or noise pollution or something else?

Either way, the solution is simple. Get a cold air box from somewhere like UAS or Hills Motorsports (Hills do a much better one than UAS, but costs about double) and put the pod inside that.

The reason why I ask if your defect notice was due to emissions or noise is because a pod in a box still makes a lot of noise so it still might be illegal for noise reasons.

Oh, for anyone that finds the flat filter to flow better than their pod, it was because your pod was sucking in a lot of hot air from your engine bay. I had the same problem, but I got a UAS box and it fixed the power right up again.

[Guest gtst88]

Originally posted by nismoR34

I have heard that in VIC you are allowed 1 intake mod, so you can have a pod but it must NOT be made of foam and it must also NOT be an oiled type pod - so any brand fitting this description is ok in Victoria - this info was passed on by fellow members who have spoken directly with the authorities!

btw FMIC [aftermarket] and boost increase are INTAKE mods...

can you confirm this nismoR34 ?

i'm in Melbourne and i plan to upgrade my intake, intercooler, cams, etc,etc

thanks buddy !

Cheers !

[Guest RedLineGTR]

tell this to cops and they will go..pppffff yah right and slap you for a fine for being a smart arse. The best thing to do is get it on paper of vicroads with a act number or something that they could check. Then you can tell them what ya think. Lolz

[NismoR34]

Originally posted by gtst88

can you confirm this nismoR34 ?  

i'm in Melbourne and i plan to upgrade my intake, intercooler, cams, etc,etc  

thanks buddy !

Cheers !

I havent spoken to the EPA directly but a couple of the Melbourne guys have and say that 1 intake mod is allowed...*goes and looks for thread* here's one: laws on mods in vic?

Or just call the EPA to get it from the horses mouth!

[Hiroshima Screamer]

oh oh anouther defect heading my way