Canary And Demerit Points?

[Ricos]

just wondering if any of you could tell me how many points u loose when u get a defective vehicle notice?

and how much is the fine? wats the usual drill down in vic?

[Leon.T]

tried looking at the stickys or do a search?

[ctjet]

3 points, $169

EDIT: should clear this up...

its only 3 poits for a major defect, which is maily what they give now as to eliminate imports off Victorian roads. If you get a minor one, then they usually dont fine you or lose any points but as stated its really up to the officer as to how severe the fine is.

Edited December 13, 2006 by ctjet

[Jamezilla]

Not always - sometimes you can get a minor notice with no fine nor points loss... but you still need to fix the issue and present the car to VicRoads.

Not 100% on the law - but I believe this is mostly at the discretion of the officer.

[R31Nismoid]

Since when do you loose points for a defect?

[ctjet]

Indexed fees and fines

dont lose it...

[R31Nismoid]

either way

Contact VICROADS. Half the stuff that will be posted here will be inaccurate by the second page

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home

[R31Nismoid]

Indexed fees and fines

dont lose it...

That still doesnt notate major or minors

[SKY031]

"Use an unsafe vehicle which has been modified or does not comply with the regulations or standards for registration.... $177" seems to cover both?

[R31Nismoid]

Possibly.

I'd be interested to see officer disgression @ work on that one

edit: i also dont think matt was hit with any demirt points for his recent defect... hmm..

[SABBAi]

Not at all. His was classified as a minor defoect. Having said that, it cant be cleared without engineer approval. He was also reported to the EPA.

[SKY031]

Dave got a fine with his last (major) defect... i tried digging up the paperwork to see if the fine was as a result of the defect, or if it was in relation to a particular illegal modification, but I can't find it anywhere.

I told him to fight it because he was booked by an officer on a motorbike, who removed his helmet while he gave the car a going over.... i was under the impression that once they removed their helmet, they were considered to be "out of uniform", but he decided it was easier to just shut up and pay up.

[MissJuz]

LOL thats pretty funny. I'm 200% certain that they are still able to give out fines and perform their officer duties without their helmet on. Had that gone to court i'm sure the officer and judge would've been laughing for a long tome.

I've never lost points for a defect but I have got the $169 fine about 3 times while getting defected, the fine was for driving an "Unsafe Vehicle". They can take 3 points for this I think but its up to the officers descretion to take the points or not.

I've also had major defects where i didn't get fined.

The law may have changed though recently.

[SKY031]

LOL thats pretty funny. I'm 200% certain that they are still able to give out fines and perform their officer duties without their helmet on.

Well... motorbike Police might be able to, but regular Police are improperly dressed without their hats

I just thought it might transfer across

[Roy]

Provided the officer identifies himself then he can quesiton you , book you etc even if he is off duty and wearing his underwear on his head.

[Ricos]

thx guys

so its pritty much up to the officer and if he wants to be a prick or not

wats considered a minor defect offence? like couple mods? IE cooler and boost controller? or are all mods no matter how many considered a mojor defect?

[SKY031]

Major defect is when they get you for 3 or more things.

If you want to find out what's defectable, go check out the legal info links in the sticky thread up the top of this section.

Provided the officer identifies himself then he can quesiton you , book you etc even if he is off duty and wearing his underwear on his head.

if that's the case, why would there be such a term as "off duty"?

Wouldn't that mean that they are "on duty" 24/7?

How would they be able to "book you"?

In order to do that, they would have to have access to the proper paperwork.

I understand that they may be considered a more viable witness in certain situations, but when it comes to an off duty Police officer, don't you and I have exactly the same amount of power that they do?

[Jamezilla]

On TV, off duty policemen can kill hundreds of people - say they are all bad, and get off scott-free (and usually hook up with some strumpet ex-hooker with a heart of gold).

Troy wears his underpants on his head quite regularly, so I'd be inclined to believe him. Note the part about identifying themselves as an officer (and no doubt flashing the 'ol warrant badge around)? - I'm sure he'd be able to stay off duty, dropping pints and betting on the dish lickers if he kept his yam shut.

That said - I received a yellow sticker in the R. No fine, no loss of points. Just told to get my trumped up charge of the placcard not matching the load weighting on my tyres - fixed.

[R31Nismoid]

Well... motorbike Police might be able to, but regular Police are improperly dressed without their hats

I just thought it might transfer across

I actually defeated a "failure to obey an officer" or whatever.

because he wasnt in uniform

He didnt have

1) A hat

2) reflective vest while directing traffic

3) Shoulder lapels.

I went on the argument he looked like a hot and bothered bus driver.

And winner to me

The judge actually hammered him. He had been in the force for 20 years and should have known better.

Power to the people

[SKY031]

It sounds like you've spent more time in court than me Ash

Troy wears his underpants on his head quite regularly

While you're out looking for Decemberween gifts, might I suggest that you consider buying him a hat of some sort?

Underpants as headwear is SO last year. (and it doesn't really impress the ladies)