How To Tell The Year Of A R33?

[Torques]

Hello,

I needed a new (used) car and came across this ad:

R33

(Yes, I'm in the UK)

I liked the car, because this one is not modified and has not any embarrassing mods or spoilers.

The price is 12,500 AUD.

Though the price sounded a bit steep to me I had a look at the car.

Had A Look At The Car

In reality it didn't look that gorgeous anymore, but I still liked it.

I did some checks on the car, and followed an advice I got to verify the year:

The year of manufacture can be found by looking at the front seatbelts, near the floor mounting point. There is a fabric tag with the seatbelt specifications and the year of manufacture sewn onto the webbing.

So I checked the tag and it said 1993!

I pointed this out to the seller, and he said that the seatbelt might have been replaced ..

I think that's quite a far fetched story, but are there any things apart from the tag to tell the year?

I checked many Skyline pictures, and all with the year 95 seem to have an airbag.

There's a number on the firewall where the engine sits and it says:

ECR33-002864

If this is some kind of serial number, it sounds pretty low to me and would support the 1993 tag year.

Hmmmmm .....

Is there any check I can do on the number?

I still like the car, and the engine made a good impression on me.

I'm a complete beginner with Skylines and any help is highly appreciated.

Thanks for the help!

Greetings from London!

[Al]

Car is a '93 or '94 model

- Seat belts are manufactured by another business, so they can be done in advance.

- The engine has the coil igniter modual, on the top, at the rear (near the firewall), which only came out in '93 or '94 cars.

- Has the S1 rear spoiler

- No airbag

[ShylineR33]

"The price is 12,500 AUD.

Though the price sounded a bit steep to me"

Hi,

I would have thought $12500 for an R33 with 69000km on the clock, was little on the too good to be true end of the scale if anything...

Damien

Edited December 16, 2006 by ShylineR33

[Torques]

"The price is 12,500 AUD.

Though the price sounded a bit steep to me"

Hi,

I would have thought $12500 for an R33 with 69000km on the clock, was little on the too good to be true end of the scale if anything...

Damien

No, it represents the upper limit for such a car in the UK and I'd only pay the amount for a 95 in mint condition.

As for the milage you should consider if such a low milage is realistic for an 11 year old car.

The car in the link (true 95) below is at 13,000 AUD and also at the top range of prices.

Besides note that this is not a GTR!

GTRs is what people want, so the price is higher.

Cheers

Edited December 16, 2006 by Torques

[Torques]

Car is a '93 or '94 model

- Seat belts are manufactured by another business, so they can be done in advance.

- The engine has the coil igniter modual, on the top, at the rear (near the firewall), which only came out in '93 or '94 cars.

- Has the S1 rear spoiler

- No airbag

Thanks, I agree ... the seat belt could be made in advance ... but 2 years?

So much harder evidence seems to be the spoiler / airbag / coils.

What does S1 mean? And when came the 'new' spoiler exactly?

Can I do any research regarding the number on the firewall?

If you look at this one, it seems to be a true 95 model and I'd pay the price for it.

True 95

[sloazr33]

Thanks, I agree ... the seat belt could be made in advance ... but 2 years?

So much harder evidence seems to be the spoiler / airbag / coils.

What does S1 mean? And when came the 'new' spoiler exactly?

Can I do any research regarding the number on the firewall?

If you look at this one, it seems to be a true 95 model and I'd pay the price for it.

True 95

that one looks like a S1.5 - S1 front with S2 wing and the clear skyline boot garnish

the higher wing came on the S2 models, and on the S1.5 models

S1 is series 1 - info can be found here

S1.5 is series 1.5 - info can be found here , this is basically a S1 with the S2 wing and engine.

S2 is series 2 - info can be found here

more info on model differences can be found here

it is mainly cosmetic changes and standard options, there is other things like the coil igniter module as noted above

you can post the VIN number (number on firewall) in these threads and someone with the Nissan FAST program will check it out for you

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...howtopic=133729

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...howtopic=128496

[justin911]

car was made in august 1993

ECR33-002864

[eMsta]

yeah it looks like a 93 - rear spoiler and steering wheel - but thats how i look at it

[Al]

yeah it looks like a 93 - rear spoiler and steering wheel - but thats how i look at it

'93 and '94 look identical, expect the early '93 that have the other type of front bar

[Al]

All the info you can even want are on these forums

[dezz]

As justin said, built 08/93

[Basti]

yeah it looks like a 93 - rear spoiler and steering wheel - but thats how i look at it

what is it bout the steering wheel that differentiates the models? just curious

EDIT: ok realised for myself. its the airbag right?

Edited December 17, 2006 by Basti

[Torques]

Good morning from the UK!

Wow ... I woke up this morning and was wondering whether there is any reply at all.

Thank you so much for all the information, this is just great!

I knew from the start that the car didn't feel like a 95 model, but the seller was asking the 1995 price for it.

He stressed many times that this is a 95 model...

As for the airbag I read in a wiki that all 96 models have the airbag as standard.

I think with the VIN number I really can nail the seller down on the year.

(Unless he argues that this has been replaced as well)

Cheers!

[dezz]

If he argues that the VIN has been 'replaced' then I wouldn't be touching the car anyway....the VIN is the VIN it gets when its made by Nissan, and thats that. The car IS a 1993 model, and thats all there is to it.

[justin911]

maybe the back half from the weld down is a 95

[dezz]

be nice justin

[justin911]

i was talking about your car

be nice justin

[dezz]

nothin but 98