RPR33 Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Hey guys I have a 96 series 2 r33 (90,000 on clock) If I don't sell it I plan on an engine upgrade around 6K limit. Should I rebuild or go a few bolt on's? I don't know how long these engines live for. I have only run 12psi into it, runs stock boost most days or around 9-10 some weekends. It has 3''inch turbo back front mount and high flow'd fuel pump So should I go 1. turbo ecu clutch afm injectors OR rebuild it? If a rebuild is on the cards what sort of rebuild? Cheers, Russ Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/148987-6k/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 turbo - 1.7k ECU - 1k Clutch - 1k afm - 300 injectors - 900 So thats 5k without labour, tuning or anything else so you'll come close to 6k by the time thats done Simply put... the motor will last if the tune is good and you service it correctly. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/148987-6k/#findComment-2779057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinistaGTR Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 casino=Roulette=RED=Double your money..... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/148987-6k/#findComment-2779079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunjeng Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 I would leave out the injectors for now if you have a decent fuel pump. Apart from that the rest is spot on...thats will give u 600-900 bucks extra for labour. Other things to look for are suspension upgrades...say the whiteline kit..just to make it more driveable and fun to hammer around corners.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/148987-6k/#findComment-2779090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLik Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 keep the 6k, sell 33, buy 32 gtr Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/148987-6k/#findComment-2779260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QRI05E Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 To sell a '96 Skyline and to pay $6000 on top to buy an '89 Skyline really seems bit of a backward step IMHO.. although its a GTR (approx 180aw/kw stock) , you still gonna spend $5000 on exhaust, ECU, Tune .etc. to get it to the same power level as it would if he spent $6000 on his GTST... With a highflow turbo, ECU, Tune, Injectors, EBC and Cams... RB25DET's have seen pushing 250+rw/kw The way i look at it, how would the owner of a stockish R32/R33 GTR, RX7, Supra or STI feel if a stock looking GTST smashed him off the lights? My 2c Regards, Sarkis Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/148987-6k/#findComment-2779289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazy-Bastard Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 (edited) turbo - $800 - slide ECU - $1K - PFC (probably 2nd hand for this price nowdays) AFM - $350 w/ plug - anywhere injectors - $550 - Deatchwerks clutch - $460 - C & B not including labour or tune - $3160 oh, and then spend some money on your brakes Edited December 28, 2006 by Lazy-Bastard Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/148987-6k/#findComment-2779311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QRI05E Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Yes i know that Bernard however, as an everyday driver your car see's more traffic lights then it does christmas tree's (lights at the drag strip) and if he was going to build a car just for the track, then an RB26/30 settup with powerglide box and 3500 stall, stripped interior .etc. will bring him in the 9 sec bracket... however this isnt the case... as for streetable performance, and $6000 to spend... a GTST can go a long way and yet maintain drivability as well as a MUCH cheaper insurance premium than the GTR.. Cheers Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/148987-6k/#findComment-2779358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquariuz6 Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 true factor QRI05E. I just hate to see any skylines on the news these holidays. Hmm i wonder how bad is it to insure a GTR? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/148987-6k/#findComment-2779370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Please dont talk about street racing it has no place here. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/148987-6k/#findComment-2779411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
John- Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 whats a afm? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/148987-6k/#findComment-2779424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPR33 Posted December 28, 2006 Author Share Posted December 28, 2006 (afm) air flow meter bud. I could go an 32gtr but the upkeep is a turn off. maybe i should sell/swap my car and use the 6k to upgrade?? but a tuff gtst would be sweet. should I rebuild or mod? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/148987-6k/#findComment-2779560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulr33 Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 price up a poor mans rb30 build see how much it is Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/148987-6k/#findComment-2779567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPR33 Posted December 28, 2006 Author Share Posted December 28, 2006 any suggestions where I'm in north east vic but don't mind a drive Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/148987-6k/#findComment-2779595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinistaGTR Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 lol let me know if you want a q45afm lol Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/148987-6k/#findComment-2779611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rev210 Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 (edited) The way i look at it, how would the owner of a stockish R32/R33 GTR..... feel if a stock looking GTST smashed him off the lights?My 2c Regards, Sarkis Not going to happen unless the GTR is un well. Not hard to have a fairly stock R32 GTR running low 12's. As for smashing the GTR off the lights... well we all know that only happens on the drag strip with slicks on. Having owned both the GTR and R33 gtst I can say the former offers a different driving experience... a far better one. However $6k is about 3 years of a regular GTR maintence budget, thats just to keep it running. Having a GTST makes for cheaper long term ownership. It just isn't a GTR at the end of the day but, neither is the monthly bill. Plenty of people buy GTR's and soon find out that they can't actually afford to run them. Don't let people suck you in just on how great GTR's are without looking at the real money they cost you. I now drive an R32 GTST for the record, I like what it does for the budget. Edited December 28, 2006 by rev210 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/148987-6k/#findComment-2779631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPR33 Posted December 28, 2006 Author Share Posted December 28, 2006 yeh I'll use a q45afm how much? I plan on kkr 430 turbo, ecu remap (r32 with vct chip) 550cc/740cc injectors, z32/q45 afm,and clutch. but with a rb25 with 90,000 do you think it'll live long on say 230-250rwkw I'm also thnkin save some cash and leave the injectors and afm stock should still get 230rwkw rite? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/148987-6k/#findComment-2779765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinistaGTR Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 pm me......lol Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/148987-6k/#findComment-2779946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunjeng Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 yeh I'll use a q45afm how much?I plan on kkr 430 turbo, ecu remap (r32 with vct chip) 550cc/740cc injectors, z32/q45 afm,and clutch. but with a rb25 with 90,000 do you think it'll live long on say 230-250rwkw I'm also thnkin save some cash and leave the injectors and afm stock should still get 230rwkw rite? you will be maxing the stock AFM out around those figures...not sure exactly but do ur tuner a favor and get a VG30 AFM at least. They fit properly but u need to adapter the plug from memory. 740cc innjectors would run at about 40% duty cyle with ur supporting mods...dont bother I have much more power with 550cc SARDs and they never really get over 80%. Get a powerFC as a minimum...not sure about thats turbo but if its small and will spool hard quickly then go fo it. Clutch..wait for ur current one to die then replace...not point replacing one if its still working IMO...unless u want to sell it, personally I just kill them and buy a new one..if your only running ~230 it will last for a while depending on how u drive it... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/148987-6k/#findComment-2779984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz2332 Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 turbo - $800 - slideECU - $1K - PFC (probably 2nd hand for this price nowdays) AFM - $350 w/ plug - anywhere injectors - $550 - Deatchwerks clutch - $460 - C & B not including labour or tune - $3160 oh, and then spend some money on your brakes These injectors, are they made by Deatchwerks? is it lik saying im installing nismo injectors, instead im installing Deatchwerks injectors? has anyone used them? what are they lik? cos i lik the price....... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/148987-6k/#findComment-2780013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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