Kel Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Aftermath of car 811's little spin and big off... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/150746-targa-tas-07/page/14/#findComment-3077762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targa Tom Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 (edited) He runs Bridgestones through his fleet vehicles and the Dunlops have always been more expensive.............. I don't get it. If you are doing Targa, even the most expensive tyres around are your cheapest expense. I have no idea why people are running tyres based on price. I don't think the boys are blaming tyres for their bungee jump, but if it was a consideration I see a lot more than $1600 in damage... Hope the bug has bitten enough to get you back. A reshell will cost a fair bit of time, but thats about all... Noticed you snuck in a pick Kel... thank you TT Edited April 26, 2007 by Targa Tom Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/150746-targa-tas-07/page/14/#findComment-3077780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kel Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 ... and more of the little big off aftermath.... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/150746-targa-tas-07/page/14/#findComment-3077795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kel Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Duncan says: Are you sure this is how it looked when you parked it here last Mark? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/150746-targa-tas-07/page/14/#findComment-3077799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kel Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Scott says: Don't worry Mark, it will buff right out. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/150746-targa-tas-07/page/14/#findComment-3077802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kel Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Godzilla says: GRRRRRR...... NOT HAPPY!!!!!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/150746-targa-tas-07/page/14/#findComment-3077813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kel Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Noticed you snuck in a pick Kel... thank youTT Sorry we didn't get more! We kept the boys busy working on the car this year so not enough pics of the actual action unfortunately. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/150746-targa-tas-07/page/14/#findComment-3077824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
88silhouette Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 kel and dunc how did you find the g4's? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/150746-targa-tas-07/page/14/#findComment-3077888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 no problems at all with the brakes, and they take a hammering on the tight stages 100->50, 100->50, repeat 30 times lol. Had the wrong pads on the first day and they got chewed up, changed to the race compound after that and they were great. Will take them off and have a proper look in the next week or 2. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/150746-targa-tas-07/page/14/#findComment-3077967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t01-100 Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 I don't get it. If you are doing Targa, even the most expensive tyres around are your cheapest expense. I have no idea why people are running tyres based on price. I don't think the boys are blaming tyres for their bungee jump, but if it was a consideration I see a lot more than $1600 in damage... Hope the bug has bitten enough to get you back. A reshell will cost a fair bit of time, but thats about all...Noticed you snuck in a pick Kel... thank you TT There for a good while the Dunlop's (D01J sorter days) were more expensive than the Bridgestone's (RE520/RE540) for little to no gain and with brand loyalty I guess people don't know how much of gain can be seen in recent release tyres until they try them. As we all know, price doesn't always equal performance alone - the P-Zero Corsa would have to be one of the hardest, nastiest tyres I've used and they are also one of the most expensive... lets not even mention Advans! I guess the moral of the story is to try as many tyres as you can on the car you will be using them on (and tune your suspension and pressures accordingly) and make a personal choice or be lead by people you trust. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/150746-targa-tas-07/page/14/#findComment-3078603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Baron Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 you would have to say it looks like the roll cage saves 2 lives. it looks like some very hard impacts on the roof. send a thank you note to the dude that welded the roll cage! such a shame, but that's tarmac rally for you. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/150746-targa-tas-07/page/14/#findComment-3078747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlin Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Just a quick note to ask who's doing what upcoming events. I may jump in with Catchy in his Evo IV for Rally of Burnie (he won it last year so the pressure will be on!). Then it's back into the 34 for Buller which I haven't done before so am lookin forward to it! For those who've done Buller, do you reckon there's much use in screwing up some power given we're not held back by Targa type rules? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/150746-targa-tas-07/page/14/#findComment-3079616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targa Tom Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Just a quick note to ask who's doing what upcoming events. I may jump in with Catchy in his Evo IV for Rally of Burnie (he won it last year so the pressure will be on!).Then it's back into the 34 for Buller which I haven't done before so am lookin forward to it! For those who've done Buller, do you reckon there's much use in screwing up some power given we're not held back by Targa type rules? Don't know about the HP race up Buller, but we will be at Burnie I reckon... Just waiting to see what they have planned for it. Lots of Rumours... Burnie to be biased toward ARC Tarmac round and Rally Tas to be a stick with the Classic market. Either way the 3 of the best 4 Tarmac events are in Tassie, so we are spoiled ATM TT Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/150746-targa-tas-07/page/14/#findComment-3080826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHaT MR30 Posted April 28, 2007 Author Share Posted April 28, 2007 Maybe jump back in the Ute for Burnie. While im here can anyone explain to me why you can run 18s on a 32 GTR? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/150746-targa-tas-07/page/14/#findComment-3081229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sav man Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 We were talking to Brian Tarratt, and he said that some GT-R's were running Nismo option parts, as when you bought a GT-R, you could get anything from the Nismo catalouge fitted and warrentied as an option part. I don't know if R32's had the option for 18's, but I know that one of the R33's were running Nismo 18" wheels amoungst other things. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/150746-targa-tas-07/page/14/#findComment-3081417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targa Tom Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Maybe jump back in the Ute for Burnie.While im here can anyone explain to me why you can run 18s on a 32 GTR? I am not sure, but told Holywood to check the tyre regs closely... I can't understand anone running 18's because it limits your tyre choices... 32's had 16 x 8 std and therfore could run maybe 17s Benno can probabley help us here. Again, one thing that Targa does teach you is how to read regs and research in a way that suits your cause. TT Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/150746-targa-tas-07/page/14/#findComment-3081880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Yeah we'll be back for the lake mountain and buller sprints for sure, can't wait. With the gtrs, the n1 had 17x8 wheels (standard only was 16x8). Since the Nismo options were allowed that opened up 17x9 or 18x8 wheels - I think it was for this year only. Steve from Just Jap could confirm we took his advice on this one. 17x8 seemed fine to me, fitted over the brakes and I could afford the tyres, they get a lot more expensive and hard to get sizes in 18s. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/150746-targa-tas-07/page/14/#findComment-3081932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t01-100 Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 (edited) Nismo optioned a host of rims up to 18x10 for various GTR models, but not for all models. eg R33 GTR can run standard 17x9 or up to 18x10 in the case of Dave Ayers this year who was the only wearing the proper Nismo rims. There is not compete freedom as the size you run must be listed and published by Nismo so in the case of the R32 GTR you could run a 16x8 if its a base model, 17x8 if its a V-Spec/V-Spec II or N1, or if you drawn on options 17x9 as Thatch did, or up to a max 18x9 as Tony did. No 18x10 was listed for R32 GTR. I've got a list in the office if anyone wants to know more. Previously the rules were you must run the rim size as fitted standard, and thats still the case, but if there is a listed option from time of sale then you can drawn on it. Rim options will remain a freedom for some time to come, but engine and suspension options particually have been limited under the latest revise of the regulations and components like 80mm exhausts and thicker radiators where given grace this year only as the revised technical regulations were only released the Friday before this years Targa. Hope this helps... Edited April 29, 2007 by t01-100 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/150746-targa-tas-07/page/14/#findComment-3083558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHaT MR30 Posted April 29, 2007 Author Share Posted April 29, 2007 Nismo optioned a host of rims up to 18x10 for various GTR models, but not for all models. eg R33 GTR can run standard 17x9 or up to 18x10 in the case of Dave Ayers this year who was the only wearing the proper Nismo rims. There is not compete freedom as the size you run must be listed and published by Nismo so in the case of the R32 GTR you could run a 16x8 if its a base model, 17x8 if its a V-Spec/V-Spec II or N1, or if you drawn on options 17x9 as Thatch did, or up to a max 18x9 as Tony did. No 18x10 was listed for R32 GTR. I've got a list in the office if anyone wants to know more. Previously the rules were you must run the rim size as fitted standard, and thats still the case, but if there is a listed option from time of sale then you can drawn on it. Rim options will remain a freedom for some time to come, but engine and suspension options particually have been limited under the latest revise of the regulations and components like 80mm exhausts and thicker radiators where given grace this year only as the revised technical regulations were only released the Friday before this years Targa. Hope this helps... Is there anything at all for S15's in the nismo catalog? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/150746-targa-tas-07/page/14/#findComment-3084277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
haw001 Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 I like the picutre with my legs hanging out. The dukes of hazzard made it look so easy! As to tyres, as Duncan said, price does not always equal value or performance, and you really need the right tyres for the event you are doing. Same applies to compound. I'm not blaming the tyres (well not totally anyway) and really can't fault the bridgestones in the dry, they were good when they got some heat in them, but when 4 days old and cold, they absolutely suck in the wet. We didn't have bad traction, they just let go completely without warning, and we were only doing a very low speed 40-50km/hr max. Those who saw us go over the bridge will testify that we weren't pushing hard. Mark Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/150746-targa-tas-07/page/14/#findComment-3084659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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