Rubber Bits Between Rear Subframe And Chassis

[PHATR32]

i noticed the rubber bits shown in the pic are leaking this jelly type stuff. they are the rubber grommets between the rear subframe and the chassis.

i have a 2way diff, and it shakes the car to bits around corners, and even when the front wheels a slightly turned, would these worn components be the cause?? i know 2ways do clunk but this thing is rediculas, it actually wobbles the whole rear end and is quite embarissing.

any got a price for an upgrade set?

thanks

steve

Edited February 6, 2007 by PHATR32

[GTR32GUS]

U mean the subframe bushes ?

if so about $195 and then about $500-$600 to put them in

[BHDave]

125 for a set of subframe lock collars. Install them yourself with a jack and a pair of stands.

http://www.driftshop.com.au/suspension.htm about half way down

[Cubes]

I've been quoted $200 to fit the Noltec Subframe bushes.

They are a hassle to do but providing the workshop has done them before they can get them done quickly. If they want to.

I've just bought a 12tonne press so I will be doing my own shortly.

[GTR32GUS]

I've been quoted $200 to fit the Noltec Subframe bushes.

They are a hassle to do but providing the workshop has done them before they can get them done quickly. If they want to.

I've just bought a 12tonne press so I will be doing my own shortly.

$200 that cheap I never got a quote but thought it would heaps more , good luck i heard it a prick of a job

Those metal spacers go in a different spot too

[sh@un]

installing the lock collars is the easiest solution

[Duncan]

i heard it a prick of a job

exactly....200 is a steal....don't do it yourself if you can get it done that price....you have to take the whole subframe down to do it - have a look how much you need to detach to get it off

[Cubes]

I'm doing a few others bits and pieces while the subframe is dropped.

I have GTR hubs, axles etc to drop in that I picked up for next to nothing + a few bushes here and there. :S

[johnGTS-t]

Ive got the same problem, sort of. Ive fitted a set of sub frame bushes (pineapples) for traction and now the right hand side one is leaking. it wasnt before.

[PHATR32]

so the actually sub frame has to completly removed?? dam....

what are these lock collars sh@un is talking about?

[GTR32GUS]

in my opinion the lock collars(pineapples) will only work good if the sub frame bushes are in good nick

Edited February 9, 2007 by GTR32GUS

[PHATR32]

ye mine are shot, the ass end feels really loose, and as i mensioned above the 2 way shakes the shit out the rear end.

[Cubes]

Mine have stopped leaking.

On the dyno under power the left wheel 'almost' touches the front of the guard. :S

Driving it on the road second and sometimes third steers the car.

Good thing they are being done soon.

[BHDave]

lol. I found after i locked the hicas i'd chuck the car into a corner and the arse end would still passively steer

I think the 2 way will be giving the bushes a very hard time. All the loading and unloading (which would effectively be twisting/releasing the subframe), both wheels trying to travel at the same speed on accel and decel will probably twist the subframe on fast cornering aswell, so effective passive rear steering.

[Eug]

so the actually sub frame has to completly removed?? dam....

what are these lock collars sh@un is talking about?

i've been quoted that they would need my car for at least 1 full day... is it THAT big of a job?

[Sydneykid]

i've been quoted that they would need my car for at least 1 full day... is it THAT big of a job?

Yes, they have to remove the whole rear subframe from the car to put it in the press. That means drive shafts, diff, tailshaft, stabilsier bar, shocks, springs, brake callipers, habd brake cable etc etc all have to be removed first.

If someone is quoting $200 then it is either;

1. A new guy who has never done one before and has no idea how long it will take

2. A suck in price, they will find something "wrong" and then charge more

3. Someone who thinks that they can do it in the car with a screw style press, when 99% of time they can't. One or more of the bushes will not budge and they will have to remove the whole subframe. Then refer to #2

cheers

[Cubes]

If someone is quoting $200 then it is either;

1. A new guy who has never done one before and has no idea how long it will take

2. A suck in price, they will find something "wrong" and then charge more

3. Someone who thinks that they can do it in the car with a screw style press, when 99% of time they can't. One or more of the bushes will not budge and they will have to remove the whole subframe. Then refer to #2

cheers

Gary, The bloke is my tuner. He's done a few of them before and knows they are a big job.

BUT thats the price he's given me. No doubt others would not receive that price.

He removes the diff and all the associated bits. Gets an oxy on to the old bushes and wacks them out (apparently much quicker doing it this way than removing the old via a press). He then wacks the subframe in to a press and presses in the new bushes.

He did say its a 1/2 to 3/4 day job.

[Bl4cK32]

I got quoted the same price as Cubes for changover of the subframe bushes through our tuner.

He does do slightly better prices because of a thing called customer loyalty, not that he doesnt know whats involved, or a suck in price.

In fact when he sets the price its fixed, no matter what. Unless something goes stupidly wrong he will ring and ask u about it.

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GTR32GUS - The metal ring ones simply crush the std worn bushes down providing a metal on metal connection between the subframe and the rear of the car. Not the best option for someone with a 2 way diff..

Pinapples can be used to stiffen the subframe up, or change the angle of it .

Edited February 9, 2007 by Bl4cK32

[PHATR32]

dam, looks like its gonna be a weekend job then.

about the press, do you really need a big one, are they that tight they cant be hammered in?

back before i registered it i had most of the ass end out it (diff, shafts, attessa pump), etc etc so removing it isnt a problem, the problem is i dont know anyone who has a press, and i wont have much luck finding a shop open on a sat arvo or a sunday.

steve

[Cubes]

I bought an Ebay 12tonne press for $150. The bloke was in adelaide so no postage cost, usually postage is around $38.

Its quite a good press and much better than the supercrap presses that break welds.

Grab a 3" piece of exh. pipe and plate to press the R32 bush in.