New Gtr

[Rezz]

i wouldnt trust a magazine much until the actual thing hit the streets or actually went to a magazine like i dunno... motor magazine? wheels? but on an international level??? whats a really really big world wide mag??

otherwise, theyre just rumour mags... it is meant to weigh in the 1700kgs+ thou

i just dont know about the "blembo" brakes lol

It was misspelt... ever spelt a Japanese persons name wrong? That's how easy it is. Their editors are dealing with a foreign language and a mistake got through, don't shoot down their credibility over a single misspelt word.

Speaking of credibility, have a look at all those links I posted (and m3gtr quoted) and then compare that info to the OFFICIAL presales documentation released just last week. There you'll see just how credible these so-called 'rumour mags' are... they're bang on the money 80 - 90% of the time. They scooped the engine code/weight/dimensions/engine capacity/transmissions two months or more in advance! Only now some 'credible' non-Japanese mags are catching on... two months after the fact.

The Japanese mags are credible, it's just short sighted homebodies who don't get out much and the badwagon jumpers that think they aren't.

The GT-R will weigh 1700kg+.

[scathing]

The Japanese mags are credible, it's just short sighted homebodies who don't get out much and the badwagon jumpers that think they aren't.

The Americans aren't the only race that have the "Not Made Here" attitude.

Wheels and Motor are regularly wrong on their "scoops", as well, or get it from the same web sites they do. I remember when they "featured" a 450Z clubsport racer scoop, a vehicle that no-one's heard a peep about since it hit the Internet and then the Aussie car mags about a month after.

[monaroCountry]

Allot of cars are changing into auto, straight line might be faster, but still recon that a manual would be better in a track with lots of corners...........this is coming from an auto driver :-).

[scathing]

Allot of cars are changing into auto, straight line might be faster, but still recon that a manual would be better in a track with lots of corners...........this is coming from an auto driver :-).

When you say "auto", do you mean gear selection or clutch actuation? I'd agree if its the former and disagree if its the latter,

I can't think of any auto gear selecting race cars (pretty sure even most drag cars still have to select gears manually), and there's a reason why F1 cars only use a clutch pedal off the line.

[funkymonkey]

Allot of cars are changing into auto, straight line might be faster, but still recon that a manual would be better in a track with lots of corners...........this is coming from an auto driver :-).

fifth gear did a track test of the Audi TT S-Tronic (sequential manual using 2 clutches instead of 1) back to back with a manual with exact same specs, and it turned out faster as the machine can change gears quicker than a human.

oldschool auto boxes are probably shite for corners and tracks etc, but the new sequentials are pretty good, if not better than manuals

[scathing]

fifth gear did a track test of the Audi TT S-Tronic (sequential manual using 2 clutches instead of 1) back to back with a manual with exact same specs, and it turned out faster as the machine can change gears quicker than a human.

The original BMW SMG changed gears at 80ms in its fastest setting, which is faster than any human could do it in.

Too bad the thing sucked around town because it was too lurchy, and electronics gremlins would occasionally attack the thing and cause it to drop in to failsafe mode when pushed hard. So the thing was really good everywhere except on the street or in race conditions.....

The first Ferrari "F1 gearbox" (I think it debuted in the 355?) did it in 250ms, which isn't that slow either. Except, around town, I think it had an appetite for clutches.

I'd love a car with that DSG gearbox. Such an awesome concept, and from what I've heard from owners it works in practice. Always being on the power also means zero lag, as the engine never loses load and falls off boost.

[m3gtr]

It was misspelt... ever spelt a Japanese persons name wrong? That's how easy it is. Their editors are dealing with a foreign language and a mistake got through, don't shoot down their credibility over a single misspelt word.

Speaking of credibility, have a look at all those links I posted (and m3gtr quoted) and then compare that info to the OFFICIAL presales documentation released just last week. There you'll see just how credible these so-called 'rumour mags' are... they're bang on the money 80 - 90% of the time. They scooped the engine code/weight/dimensions/engine capacity/transmissions two months or more in advance! Only now some 'credible' non-Japanese mags are catching on... two months after the fact.

The Japanese mags are credible, it's just short sighted homebodies who don't get out much and the badwagon jumpers that think they aren't.

The GT-R will weigh 1700kg+.

mate sometimes even talking sense doesnt work...

were here. They arent.

The car was made in JAPAN people!!

If the car was made offshore then DUH, there mught be some discrepancies. Its a local product, do...you...understand...english?

if its a japanese made product who better to get the info off>??

umm...let ..me see..??? the aussies?

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[m3gtr]

edited.

my apologies.

Edited October 5, 2007 by m3gtr

[Rezz]

I just find it funny that so many people who discredited the Japanese mags for being 'rumour peddlers' for so long are still doing it... despite evidence (and a lot of it) to the contrary.

Just because the Japanese mags have a habit of making their own CG images (which - as far as the new GT-R is concerned - were 100% on the money a month or more beforehand) to go along with their articles, doesn't mean the info is made up too. They go out of their way to get real scoops first before anyone.... they're their own cars ffs. But you wouldn't know that if you can't understand Japanese now would you?

[funkymonkey]

adam, calm down mate... you're only making yourself sound less credible with outbursts like that. scathing's actually commenting on the 450Z which Autocar boldly proclaimed, and made its way through edmunds, and other auto-news feeds and finally into aussie mags.

http://autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/217791

their source was a japanese publication too from what I read at the time.

I'd take a punt and say that the reportings of japanese scoop magazines are sensationalist too just like aussie or US based tabloids. that's what sells magazines, accurate or not... although being a home grown model the japanese mags have a higher accuracy rate than foreign publications.

[NISMO]

sensationalism my dear halfwit. Wheels makes money off this kind of stuff and unfortunately youre the kind off dimwit the magazine is targeting... 450 z my ass!

i have lived here for 3 years and i have NEVER heard of such a thing.

oh! i forgot! half the worlds cars come from japan!! i guess they have no idea what theyre talking about when it comes to releasing info...

and neither do I or rezz!

idiot.

Dude wtf!!

Maybe if you got off your high horse for a second, you could read the posts correctly and realise that Scathing was agreeing and saying how the Aussie and American mags get it wrong so often.

Bit rich calling someone an idiot, when you're the one who has no concept of what the person is posting.

FFS!

[Oblivion]

<SNIP>

where did you get your avatar from?

As for the new GTR i can't seeing many people buying if i comes here and is sold for over 100k, i mean its still only a nissan, dont get me wrong i looove skylines, but that price even for the performance etc, is still steep.

maybe in a few years they will drop the price..

the 3.8dett is going to be one nice engine.

[rukus]

Allot of cars are changing into auto, straight line might be faster, but still recon that a manual would be better in a track with lots of corners...........this is coming from an auto driver :-).

f1 shifting is cool and all, but u can't randomly stab the clutch on the freeway and fry the rears. fun = gone.

[scathing]

edited.

my apologies.

I only read your original post from people quoting it in reply. Apology accepted. Peace, dude.

I'd agree with you that the local rags are a bit useless when it comes to info. I remember when I bought my 350Z, the Drive section of a "respected" national newspaper chain printed that Nissan was dropping the price of the Z by $6K. It sounded a bit too good to be true, especially since the car had only hit the market and it was selling like hotcakes (there was a 3 month wait for them) but hey, its a respected newspaper.

Rolled up to a Nissan dealer to go haggle over their price, they told me what the plausibility of them discounting was when 3/4 of the dealers couldn't even retain a Z for long enough to use as a demonstrator, and that they were considering suing Fairfax for publishing that dross.

If its not about a Ford or Holden, or a European manufacturer drip-feeding spin for free publicity to markets that overprice their cars compared to their domestic sales (and that you could have gotten faster off the Internet), the guys down here don't have a clue.

[scathing]

f1 shifting is cool and all, but u can't randomly stab the clutch on the freeway and fry the rears. fun = gone.

So have you permanently removed the ATTESSA fuse in your GT-R then, or is it no fun either?

[rukus]

So have you permanently removed the ATTESSA fuse in your GT-R then, or is it no fun either?

my gtr only worked for 2months. so im referring to my rwd cars prior to the gtr.

but in the gtr, flick switch then stab clutch.

[Beer Baron]

so rezz, when will you be sending out appologies to all the people you shot down for calling it an R35? teehee.

[Beer Baron]

and yes I'm just breakin ya balls a bit

[Rezz]

so rezz, when will you be sending out appologies to all the people you shot down for calling it an R35? teehee.

lol you're on the ball aren't you? Done it already. But I'd have to link you to my website again and that's not so cool is it...

Here you go (from the 7tune forum):

To Dave at NAGTROC (if you're lurking) and all the others, from myself at least I'd like to withdraw any comments I made about the GT-R not being an 'R35' 4-odd years ago! At the time it didn't make sense to call it that, I'm sure you understand why but I always had it in the back of my head that Nissan could do the 'unthinkable' and call it an R35. Well, I've heard it from the horses mouth now, the new GT-R is: CBA-R35.

[GT-R32]

As the title says, Looks like the GTR is on the right path to become the best/fastest car to roll off the production line!

Like we had any doubts...........

http://www.wheelsmag.com.au/News/New+GT-R+...e+showdown.html

I had my doubts... how good is that now though!