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Just a quick question, I spose many of you guys feel the same, but I'm selling my AWD Auto Subaru Liberty and want to get a Skyline. Dads not letting me get a turbo and I have persisted but only got yelled at some more.

His excuse is 'you never know when the turbo will kick in and throw you sideways'. Thats about it. 'It would be irresponsible of me to let you get a turbo', 'Not at 17 years old' and all that stuff.

Is there any hard facts about this that can be to my advantage? Stock boost does crap all? You can't feel it? etc etc. He'd let me get a non turbo R33 (140kw) but not a turbo R32 (158kw). 'The disk brakes on the R32 explode and they're generally the worst one of them, the R33 is the pick of the bunch'.

Any common problems the non turbo has that the turbo doesn't? This is concerning both R32 and R33 models.

And for anyone saying how I'm going to be irresponsible and all this stuff, I've had this drilled into by my Dad more then enough. When I go driving with my mates I tell them not to speed and don't care if they get ahead of me. They do stupid stuff and I know who's car not to get into. Even complaining to my sister she reckons I'm the most responsible 17 year old she knows. Ask Kahli on here for some backup, she knows how I drive.

Thanks for any replies, but this is something I really want (I've already bought a car that was 'alright I guess' but not what I want. I don't wanna do the same again). Plus if I get a non turbo, my mates have already got a nick name lined up for me :P

Ask your dad to get you some defensive driving lesson if he reckon's you wont be able to handle a turbo...Heslo was looking at doing this event later this year..

There great fun and you learn how to handle a car from experts at the same time!

195s or 225s im pretty sure it can be done :D

Can be but it's f**king pointless. Get something a bit wider. 225/50. If you want to run a 195 tyre you might as well get an 8 inch wheel.

There's stretched and then there's stupidity. Im guessing they're for 16 x 10 challengers?

That being said, you'll be hard pressed to find a tyre changer who will. Not even adelaide tyrepower (the masters of stretch) will do it.

Hope you enjoy popping beads.

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