Need Help Understanding How The License Points Are Deducted!

[nismoWOG]

2 DAYS AGO, SATURDAY --- man i got done 2 times in one day for lousy reasons... got the first fine @7.30am, for a missing p-plate on da back.. but still had the front one!.. got the second one on the same day but at midnight, for doin a u-turn at the lights :s dude got me a defect too so here is the deal..im losing 4 points once i pay these fines, and at the moments i got 2 points! BUT im geting 3 points back in a week!!!! so in a week time, i'd have 5 points on my licence, coz i haven't paid the fines yet.. i know that the points will only be deducted when you pay the fines.

so if i wait n pay my fines after i recieve some of my points back DO U REKON MY LICENCE WILL STILL GET SUSPENDED?? bcoz da date of offence was at the time when i had 2 points..

thanks for reading

[d00dz]

Points are gained not deducted.

Maybe ring up the RTA and find out?

[nismoWOG]

  d00dz said:

Points are gained not deducted.

Maybe ring up the RTA and find out?

I asked da RTA.. n they said i be suspended if that is da case lol but all my friends sayin that RTA gives false info most times on da phone lol n all my mates sayin i aint gona be suspended.. coz they been through the similar situation .. n that it's da infringement department who looks after da lic points nshit :s i dont know wat to think anymore.. somebody help!!! lol

[d00dz]

When is the fine due?

Surely you can wait 1 week (Ring RTA Again, this time ask how many points you have) then pay the fine THEN see if you are "suspended" or not.

RTA Sends a reminder letter to you telling you to pay the fine. (You usually get 1-2months extra if you do not pay the first time around.)

[nismoWOG]

  d00dz said:

When is the fine due?

Surely you can wait 1 week (Ring RTA Again, this time ask how many points you have) then pay the fine THEN see if you are "suspended" or not.

RTA Sends a reminder letter to you telling you to pay the fine. (You usually get 1-2months extra if you do not pay the first time around.)

i have like 2 months to pay da fines.. i already know.. n I GET 3 MORE POINTS BEFORE THE FINE IS DUE so i would have a total of 5 points in a week or so. n da fines will cost me 4 points. so LOGICALLY i should be left with one point once i pay the fines after i gained my 3 points... but da rta chik on da phone said that da 4 points im losing will be deducted from the 2 points i have at the moment, coz at da date i was fined i only had 2 points. so ye she rekons i'll be suspended lol.. sorry if it all sound abit comfusing.. u might have to readup again

thanks

Edited November 12, 2007 by nismoWOG

[rukus]

What the f**k is "da"?

[FATAZZ]

cop it cause you earned it buddy.

[GTR R35]

I think you would be fine so long as you make sure your fine is not payed before the other points are removed.

To be on the safe side fill out the court election and then pay the fine a couple of months later.

And Da is not a word, it is THE, unless you are a gangsta black american rapper.

[CJR32]

bad news mate they will backdate to the date of the fine, so if you lose 4 points in fines and on that day and you only have 2 points they will be sending you a suspension letter,if your fully licenced you can opt for the probationary licence,2 points for 12 months

[nismoWOG]

  cjR32gtst said:

bad news mate they will backdate to the date of the fine, so if you lose 4 points in fines and on that day and you only have 2 points they will be sending you a suspension letter,if your fully licenced you can opt for the probationary licence,2 points for 12 months

MAN U FOR REAL? how sure r u?

[Beer Baron]

for the last time you don't have points that get deducted. you start with zero and you accumulate demerit points. so I'm assuming you are on your ps which means you can incur a maximum of 4 demerit points before loosing your licence. you have 2 points currently. you plan to go for your green ps before paying your fines which allows you to incur 7 demerit points. just do it. you have nothing to lose. if you are wrong then you will lose your licence. but if you pay them now you lose it anyway so what's the difference?

[nismoWOG]

  Beer Baron said:

for the last time you don't have points that get deducted. you start with zero and you accumulate demerit points. so I'm assuming you are on your ps which means you can incur a maximum of 4 demerit points before loosing your licence. you have 2 points currently. you plan to go for your green ps before paying your fines which allows you to incur 7 demerit points. just do it. you have nothing to lose. if you are wrong then you will lose your licence. but if you pay them now you lose it anyway so what's the difference?

oh yeh okay man i think i get ya.. i'm actually due for my full licence. yeh well how else i should say it.. ok i say it this way.. in a week time im going to drop 3 demerit points.. i already got 2 to go then + 3 =5. the fines i got 2 days ago, r due in a month or so, which when paid off, they will gain me 4 demerit points so doin the maths it'd be 5-4=1 i get 1 point left to go right? no suspension hopefully! lol im too optimistic maybe

[evesdropping]

If you pay the fine after you get your full licence you should be fine. I was in a similar situation, and i waited until after I got my blacks to pay the fine and I still have my licence. That was over 6 months ago. The RTA even sent me a letter saying I was running out of points (or had too many, however you want to put it) but that was based on the 12 you can have on a full licence. The offence that put me over the limit for points on green p's was for a missing p plate as well, so it's not as if they wouldn't have noticed that it happened before I got my full licence.

[nismoWOG]

  evesdropping said:

If you pay the fine after you get your full licence you should be fine. I was in a similar situation, and i waited until after I got my blacks to pay the fine and I still have my licence. That was over 6 months ago. The RTA even sent me a letter saying I was running out of points (or had too many, however you want to put it) but that was based on the 12 you can have on a full licence. The offence that put me over the limit for points on green p's was for a missing p plate as well, so it's not as if they wouldn't have noticed that it happened before I got my full licence.

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTT AS!! I HOPE THATS THE CASE...

MANN I FEEL HEAPS BETTER NOW LOL THANKS BRO

[Sl!m]

  evesdropping said:

If you pay the fine after you get your full licence you should be fine. I was in a similar situation, and i waited until after I got my blacks to pay the fine and I still have my licence. That was over 6 months ago. The RTA even sent me a letter saying I was running out of points (or had too many, however you want to put it) but that was based on the 12 you can have on a full licence. The offence that put me over the limit for points on green p's was for a missing p plate as well, so it's not as if they wouldn't have noticed that it happened before I got my full licence.

but how long ago was this?

I'm 99% sure they backdate it now.

[4teecal]

  rukus said:

What the f**k is "da"?

Its the new fully hectic english spellchecker.

Type The....or any other word a normal person would use and you get hecticspeak instead......bro

[rukus]

  Beer Baron said:

for the last time you don't have points that get deducted. you start with zero and you accumulate demerit points. so I'm assuming you are on your ps which means you can incur a maximum of 4 demerit points before loosing your licence. you have 2 points currently. you plan to go for your green ps before paying your fines which allows you to incur 7 demerit points. just do it. you have nothing to lose. if you are wrong then you will lose your licence. but if you pay them now you lose it anyway so what's the difference?

Points are accumulated, but (my reasoning) for ppl saying they are 'losing' points is because the media still refers to it as losing demerit points. This implies you had points to begin with, which you dont.

From memory, in the double demerit weekend ads, the voice over dude says '...lose 6 points...'.

another example: http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22502...from=public_rss

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...and the loss of 12 licence points...

[evesdropping]

It was earlier this year...

They may have changed it, I'm not sure. But when I was doing it, people were telling me that it wouldn't work and it did. May as well try it