Time For A New Clutch

[SLYNE]

OK, atm my car is on minimal mods probably pumping about 180rwkw with heavy duty clutch but the problem is its slipping nicely

The car goes into the workshop in about 2 - 3 weeks to get a makeover and should be hitting the 250+ rwkw

So i need a clutch that can handle the power but still retain the drive ability as its my daily driver..

I was recommended an Exedy 5 Puk clutch but others tell me its worse than a Button clutch to drive

Anyone recommend what to get

need to order it sometime this week.

cheers in advance

[Pal]

http://www.npcperformance.com.au/cgi-bin/m...main=nicsclutch

just put one of these in as my clutch was slipping to. grabs like a bitch, not to bad on feel although no where near as slippy as a standard (i bought modified nismo gtr pressure plate with 5 puck ceramic)

Edited November 27, 2007 by Pal

[Kaido_RR]

nismo twin plate!

wouldn't put anything else in my car now, drives so much nicer compare to my extreme 5puk button clutch.

[(B1) MR_fanny]

ive got an exedy cushion button + flywheel. its not as bad as it sounds mainly because its cushioned so you can slip it abit. pedal pressure is pretty heavy when first installed but after a while its almost feels the same as stock. maybe the left leg is conditioned to it now. engagement is great, may clunk a little at first in stop start conditions when your not used to how it engages. overall im happy with my buy. does what it does well.

[SLYNE]

thanks for replies..

still yet to decide..

ive been thinking about either exedy or extreme cushion button for my choice..

is it necessary to get my flywheel machined?

[Grant]

Nope, not necessary unless you ran your old clutch to the ground, and damaged the flywheel face.

I'm using an Exedy cushion button too. It seems to be a good thing, is heavy, but you get used to it. (Always funny watching other people trying to drive my car though!)

[SLYNE]

how different is a cushioned button to a heavy duty

Ive driven my cousins car and his got a brass button but never felt what a cushioned is like

[Shane_954]

Do a search for Jim Berry Raceclutch. Its all been covered before.

Wouldnt recommend Exedy from personal experience, useless imo.

If you dont machine the flywheel you wont get full contact and run the risk of slipping it in the early stages. For the extra $50 odd its well worth it.

The manufacturer doesnt always tell you but a clutch wont be covered under warranty unless the flywheel is machined.

[Pal]

don't even bother with the extreme. just got mine pulled out cause it was slipping and found that the clutch plate had worn away the pressure plate and flywheel and left the clutch plate in good condition. rand jim couple of weeks ago and for a heavy duty organic it will cost in the 850 mark, goes up from there. definitely get the flywheel machined.

Edited November 29, 2007 by Pal

[stasis]

the question you need to ask yourself is, are you willing to sacrifice a little bit of comfort for performance? It will be cheaper to get a twin plate cos it comes with a light flywheel and it will take the hammering. JB clutch is good (good feedback) abd NPC clutches. Now the thing is you have to take a look at the long temr costs of running and operation costs. JB wants A$800 for a single plate clutch rebuilt with a swap ove compared to NPC for under A$400. Now which one do you choose?

I did look into the clutch too. As im making 236.5kw@wheels. And the stage is a heavy car and i cant launch the car with the existing factory clutch. So i was looking at upgrading and took a look at JB and later i foind NPC which i think its a much cheaper option. BUT as im planning to make the car into the 320kw@wheels i started to dount the clutches (sinlge plate). So now i when out and buy the nismo twin plate ones. I havent received it yet but im confident that ie will be ok for a daily driven car. Just need pratising. Like i said before you can have comfort and performance. But if you are into performance go for the tinw plate. It will work out cheaper.

2c worth

Yudy

[SLYNE]

stasis you got mail

[Kaido_RR]

i run a nismo twin plate, drivers much better than my 9puk button clutch. takes abit to get uses to but the pedal isn't that heavy (near std feel) and it grabs like a s**t when you drop it

plus nismo twin plates rebuild kits are only like $500

Edited December 3, 2007 by [Michael]

[E_Lu-SHuN]

i got ORC 709D

LOVE IT and i think it's the cheapest twin plate around brand new from jap land

[stolen_s15]

What is your budget mate?

After talking to Jim Berry, i'm going to go through him with whatever clutch I get. Explains everything you could want to know about clutches.

[SLYNE]

just bought a cushioned button should be alright for the time being

max rwkw will be around 250 - 260

if the button clutch slips then ill go for a twin plate

cheers

[cruzin33]

what is the nismo twin plate worth and what can it handle

[Kaido_RR]

what is the nismo twin plate worth and what can it handle

around $1600 mark rated at 600hp or if you buy the comp. one i think its 800hp and about $2000

[mattymagoo22]

you should try and talk to people with the different setups you're thinking of getting and take the car for a drive. IMO brass/ceramic/puk clutch's are good for the track, but everyday driving will wear them out real quick, as mentioned above the disc is still in good condition but the flywheel and pressure plate wear out.

If the cars daily driven give it 9 - 12 months and you'll be having the box out paying more cash for a twin or something similar.

Cheers

[Cubes]

I can vouch for the Exedy clutches.

I run with a GTR 4puk solid from Kudos and its unbelievably drivable. Its nicer than my old 9puk Xtreme clutch.

A mate has the GTST 3puk Exedy and that too feels awesome as mine does; apart from my heavier pedal they both have a smooth take up and can be driven normally extremely easy. Almost too easy as its definitely not a wise idea slipping ceramic clutch as they wear at an exponential rate.

Drive them correctly and u get good life. I got 70,000km's out of my old 9puk behind the rb30 and 100,000km's out of my original HD organic behind the rb20. The std nissan clutch shagged its self at 70,000km's.

Basically its a must to give a little distance and then lunge the car; try not to ride the clutch and once u get the hang of it driving a normal car and riding the clutch feels horrible.

Exedy GTR 4puk or the GTST 3puk FTW in my opinion. As I said, more drivable than my old 9puk Xtreme XHD. It feels much like a mates OS Giken twinplate. Nice smooth quick take up. The old 9puk used to shudder a little especially when reversing.

Honestly I was a little worried about the 4 and 3 puk within the exedy range but I really wouldn't be.