Al Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I am just using one bolt in mine, with an oversized washer. The bolt that is used to hold in the rear seat, in the footwell Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/197777-what-events-does-sau-vic-have-in-the-next-few-months-for-a-less-experienced-driver/page/2/#findComment-4243309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
some_cs_student Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 two decent bolts should be sufficient. i have 4 in each extinguisher. i would not be a fan of just 1 bolt. and just to be sure, you are using nuts and bolts, not screws? lots of people screw them in and get knocked back. 4 bolts? Where? Why? Anyway, I'm not a fan of 1 bolt but its a street car that *rarely* sees the track (due to $$$), I'm using the rear footwell so one bolt, no nut! The rear seats have a bolt at the bottom on each side that secures the rear seats in, I've got the Fire Extinguisher with 1 bolt (well its now an allen-key like bolt) going through the extinguisher then securing the rear seat. I am just using one bolt in mine, with an oversized washer.The bolt that is used to hold in the rear seat, in the footwell. Same here, only question is have you done AASA / CAMS events with it before? Just been paranoid, last thing I want is to get knocked back after driving to Shepparton. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/197777-what-events-does-sau-vic-have-in-the-next-few-months-for-a-less-experienced-driver/page/2/#findComment-4243362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezz Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 You won't get knocked back at DECA. I dare say 99% of people that have them mounted in the rear footwell are only using the 1 botl (Just as I do, and I've done plenty of DECA's) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/197777-what-events-does-sau-vic-have-in-the-next-few-months-for-a-less-experienced-driver/page/2/#findComment-4243401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do-Luck Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 You won't get knocked back at DECA. I dare say 99% of people that have them mounted in the rear footwell are only using the 1 botl (Just as I do, and I've done plenty of DECA's) But now they will proably notice, and check Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/197777-what-events-does-sau-vic-have-in-the-next-few-months-for-a-less-experienced-driver/page/2/#findComment-4243628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezz Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 If the bolt is deemed safe enough to hold in a seat carrying passengers then I don't see why it cant hold a fire extinguisher... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/197777-what-events-does-sau-vic-have-in-the-next-few-months-for-a-less-experienced-driver/page/2/#findComment-4243726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belsil80 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 4 bolts? Where? Why? Anyway, I'm not a fan of 1 bolt but its a street car that *rarely* sees the track (due to $$$), I'm using the rear footwell so one bolt, no nut! The rear seats have a bolt at the bottom on each side that secures the rear seats in, I've got the Fire Extinguisher with 1 bolt (well its now an allen-key like bolt) going through the extinguisher then securing the rear seat. Same here, only question is have you done AASA / CAMS events with it before? Just been paranoid, last thing I want is to get knocked back after driving to Shepparton. 4 bolts in the 4 holes of the mount into the floor pan and tunnel. why? because 4 will spread the load better and there is no chance of getting knocked back at a track day. bolting it to the seat mounts would drive me nuts if the seat is on rails as i cant see it not being in the way. anyway, seat bolts are rather large and would do the job fine, and as al said, an oversize washer is a good idea, however as you said it could be the reason you get knocked back at a cams day. it all depends on the scrutineer you get and weather you drive a datsun you will be fine at deca. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/197777-what-events-does-sau-vic-have-in-the-next-few-months-for-a-less-experienced-driver/page/2/#findComment-4243819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I have done an offical CAMS track day with the same one bolt mounting method and did not have any issues. I know Snowy used the same method for years, when his car was more street than track, and he never had any issues (as far as I know). Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/197777-what-events-does-sau-vic-have-in-the-next-few-months-for-a-less-experienced-driver/page/2/#findComment-4243934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotsman Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Same here, only question is have you done AASA / CAMS events with it before? Just been paranoid, last thing I want is to get knocked back after driving to Shepparton. The one bolt setup your describing is the same way most of the motorsport guys do it, and have done at CAMS L2S events for 4+ years. This is how my car / snowys car runs at Dutton Rally with two extinguishers (one each side). Basically if a scrutineer can grab the fire extinguisher and give it a shake and it doesn't move, you pass! So one bolt can do this and get you a pass, but what ryan is saying is correct, we all 'should' mount them better, and if a scrutineer does take a closer look then they would probably be within their right to knock you back. Bottom line is you will be fine for DECA and most of the time you will pass L2S sprint days. Just make sure that I can come along and see a metal bracket fire extinguisher mounted securely enough that I can't shake it loose (move the bracket). This is what I advise my scrutineers to check for. Ryan - They are talking about the rear seat foot well (rear seat mounting point) not the front seat, so seat rails aren't an issue. If we were all to rock up to a C3 race meet with this mounting system, I imagine we would all be going home early thou. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/197777-what-events-does-sau-vic-have-in-the-next-few-months-for-a-less-experienced-driver/page/2/#findComment-4244226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Or you do what I "maybe" used to do and when presenting for Scrutineering take the extinguisher out of the holder and keep it in your passenger seat. That way you can hand them the extinguisher to check the date (the main thing they want to look at) and if they ask where it is bolted just point and then they can't "shake it around" and complain. They will just look at it and say OK. Thats what I might have done for years and years without a problem (This was for the 1 bolt rear seat footwell jobby) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/197777-what-events-does-sau-vic-have-in-the-next-few-months-for-a-less-experienced-driver/page/2/#findComment-4244546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
some_cs_student Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 The one bolt setup your describing is the same way most of the motorsport guys do it, and have done at CAMS L2S events for 4+ years. This is how my car / snowys car runs at Dutton Rally with two extinguishers (one each side).<cut> Ryan - They are talking about the rear seat foot well (rear seat mounting point) not the front seat, so seat rails aren't an issue. <cut> If we were all to rock up to a C3 race meet with this mounting system, I imagine we would all be going home early thou. Understood with C3 events, thanks for the information there, just wanted to confirm that I'm not doing something stupid by using only 1 bolt, and I don't exactly intend on real racing Ryan, there is 1 bolt on each side securing the bottom section of the rear seats, ie. just behind the driver/passenger seat, under the rear seats, there is a bolt that secures that bottom cushion in, that's where I'm bolting too. Due to the way the Fire Extinguisher is designed I've drilled the top / bottom hole out, the middle section is where the hinge is so it can't be drilled there, as long as the bolt is tight it should be secure Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/197777-what-events-does-sau-vic-have-in-the-next-few-months-for-a-less-experienced-driver/page/2/#findComment-4245490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
some_cs_student Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 Or you do what I "maybe" used to do and when presenting for Scrutineering take the extinguisher out of the holder and keep it in your passenger seat Well what I may or may not do may be the same thing Excellent idea. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/197777-what-events-does-sau-vic-have-in-the-next-few-months-for-a-less-experienced-driver/page/2/#findComment-4245495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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