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Bah, V8 supercars are cool, but they are about as much Holden commodore V8 or Ford falcon V8 as my skyline... they both run american engines anyway, and apart from the body shell about 0% are aussie based. Oh and i believe we have created another Ford/Holden abuse thread :rolleyes:

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Ok, after clocking up over 200km in one, i will go on the record as saying the Falcon XR6Turbo is the only car that will make me trade both my cars, and a mate is even - shock- thinking of putting the R32 GT-R in the garage for "weekend-only" use and buying a Falc Turbo to drive daily.

I've had the chance to run one against all other Falcoden performance models and it's the best (better than XR8 or GTS 300 Coupe)

That's my opinion which counts for 3/8 of stuff all though...

ooops that's 2000km i've done...

You know that JUN in Japan have bought one to modify? And an XR8 and 6T have exactly the same rear-wheel kW figures?

If you pop the bonnet and remove the top 1/2 of the air box on one when it's on the dyno you liberate 30kW. Spend $2000 with APS and you get 309kW @ flywheel as well... There is a rumour the proposed GT-HO will have a 6cyl version as well... Ford saw over 450kW in the "hard-tuned", stock bottom-end mules...

Ive driven one.. I must say it did not feel very powerfull at all.

But its much better then any holden ive driven. they feel like cheap rubbish. Like something you would buy from "GO LO" or "CLINTS CRAZY BARGAINS" or the $2 shop

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lol i start a thread about how a car really is designed to get you from a->b and should get you from a->b and everyone then begins to think its a competition between fords and holdens......oh god! Bad drivers are everywhere.....Im sure you have all done some stupid thing to make you better off on the rd for example cut across in front of traffic 2 make a last minute turn , or didnt indicate...etc etc. Blah...worth laughing about! :rolleyes:

Link? as in internet? Nah not on 'net. The Japs love to get their hands on hot engines (they bought up a few E46 BMW M3s and investigated tuning them).

Trick with XR6T is that it doesn't FEEL fast, until you look at the speedo/time sheet and go, "faaaark, it;s a 1700kg family slush box!"

JUN are being secretive bout the specs of the engine, but apparently it's already past 900hp with single large turbo and head work. Block modifications are next but i dunno what they're doing.

Don't think you'll get to 1500hp as the Falc 4L is still designed as a family/comfort block unlike the RB26DETT/2JZ-GTE which was designed as a competition/tuner engine...

U can't do a whole lot with E46 M3 engines, well not without a whole lot of bling bling. 256kw's out of a 3.2 Straight six, they are rather highly strung to say the least. Supercharger is really the only way to go, altho i'd love to see a Twin Turbo E46 M3 :)

Go into the Commodore Forums and you'll see them bagging us ..... nothing wrong with a bit of friendly bagging ..... its not like gang warfare here so whats the problem? :)

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I'll agree the Commodore seriously lack build quality, and Falcon's are no better, they are the same shit in a different bucket.

The Nissan's are average cars better than Holden/Ford, there is better out there though. If you are looking at imported Nissan's then there sure are a lot of shagged cars getting around though.... anyone who says otherwise is blind.

The R34 GTR is one of my favourite cars (Along with the SL/CL55 AMG, M3 BMW and so on), but I still drive the Bogadore, and I have blown a few of your fellow skyliners into the weeds in a relatively stock car. I have always put this down to bad driving on their part *shrug* who gives a shit, both players had fun regardless of the result.

If Commodores are the guys giving you a go most often, you should be happy, most people see my GenIII badge and back off.

At least my car being a pile of low grade crud means Holden pays for my regular engines/gearbox/diff rebuilds under warranty ;)

I am too busy enjoying the various cars on the road to bother bagging them, (except the asremonkey who crashed into me on Sunday afternoon), but I do find it amusing a thread like this exists at all, when if you go to LS1.com.au everyone lives in harmony, Skyline, Falcon or Commodore :)

I guess I also note however, that a lot of the Holden forum guys have wives and kids, guys with supercharged monaro's, and 2 baby seats in the back, but still putting 300kw to the road ;)

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Link? as in internet? Nah not on 'net. The Japs love to get their hands on hot engines (they bought up a few E46 BMW M3s and investigated tuning them).

Trick with XR6T is that it doesn't FEEL fast, until you look at the speedo/time sheet and go, "faaaark, it;s a 1700kg family slush box!"

JUN are being secretive bout the specs of the engine, but apparently it's already past 900hp with single large turbo and head work. Block modifications are next but i dunno what they're doing.

Don't think you'll get to 1500hp as the Falc 4L is still designed as a family/comfort block unlike the RB26DETT/2JZ-GTE which was designed as a competition/tuner engine...

Whats your source Sonic? I'm suprised that I couldn't find anything on it...

It's not out of Jun Thailand is it?

Originally posted by wilco

but I do find it amusing a thread like this exists at all, when if you go to LS1.com.au everyone lives in harmony, Skyline, Falcon or Commodore :)

well some guy who signed up on the 9/07/03 started this thread. so u can read whatever u want to into that. Maybe one of the street commo guys got pissed after the facts came out and they realised that a 4 door family sedan cannot be compared to a 2 Door sports coupe, and that the coupe was a better car, surprise surprise.

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