Gym And Supplement Discussion

[No Crust Racing]

Markos: I mean more so where should you be feeling the most drive/pressure when getting back up, At the moment I feel more mid foot to ball than I do in the heel.

Also for anyone who has switched between flat and incline press, what differences did you notice?

[Trozzle]

Markos: I mean more so where should you be feeling the most drive/pressure when getting back up, At the moment I feel more mid foot to ball than I do in the heel.

Also for anyone who has switched between flat and incline press, what differences did you notice?

Incline was harder, lol. That, and I seem to suck BIG time on incline with a barbell, but do quite well with dumbbells

[No Crust Racing]

Did you notice much of a difference in chest development?

[markos]

If the weight is on your toes, then the bar path is wrong, and you'll get injured

If you were squatting correctly the weight will be mid foot/heel

What footwear are you wearing?

[No Crust Racing]

It's not on my toes, it's just not directly on my heels.

Just some generic Mizuno runners.

I have a carpet square down to protect the good carpet also.

[Trozzle]

Did you notice much of a difference in chest development?

It appeared as though my pecs developed much more just below my collar bone, so we'll go with yes - even though this topic has caused a shitstorm in the past already lol

[No Crust Racing]

Fair enough.

That's what I'm sort of looking for, the lower part of my titties seems developed enough and I was looking for a little more overall shape if that makes any sense and is even achievable.

[-FIGJAM-]

hmmm, uni starts again this week, gym time will be cut down from 3-4 days a week to 2-3.

not sure if I should change my routine to accommodate less time or just keep doing what i am doing.

Day 1:

Squat

Bench

Rows

Day 2:

Squat

Military

Deadlift

all 5 x 5, with strength gains in mind.

Opinions?

[Trozzle]

Not enough brocurls

[-FIGJAM-]

in the squat rack for the win. I'll add that shit in

[-FIGJAM-]

actually need not worry, I can fit a session in before uni on Mondays

[jangles]

actually need not worry, I can fit a session in before uni on Mondays

Do Markos' whole body training. Doesn't matter if you skip a day, still hitting everything.

[No Crust Racing]

^ is the main reason I do full body workouts.

[L33SH]

Question, what would be a sensible daily goal for sugar consumption? I've been aiming for no more than 30g a day but I always seem to be way over by the end of the day. IIFYM has given me quotas for carbs, protein and fat only. I don't eat things full of sugar. Looking at my diet today for example; a banana with 12g of sugar and a yoghurt with 17g of sugar is what I've consumed sugar wise so far. I know the yoghurt isn't great but it has 16g of protein which is the main reason I'm consuming it.

Thanks.

[Trozzle]

Question, what would be a sensible daily goal for sugar consumption? I've been aiming for no more than 30g a day but I always seem to be way over by the end of the day. IIFYM has given me quotas for carbs, protein and fat only. I don't eat things full of sugar. Looking at my diet today for example; a banana with 12g of sugar and a yoghurt with 17g of sugar is what I've consumed sugar wise so far. I know the yoghurt isn't great but it has 16g of protein which is the main reason I'm consuming it.

Thanks.

I think generally you can disregard sugar content of fruits (unless ridiculously excessive) since they're "healthy" etc and fructose has a lower GI than what we generally consider "sugar"

Annoyingly, I too seem to blow out my "ideal" sugar intake even though I'm going out of my way to avoid sugars...seems the skim milk in my coffee ruins everything haha. Personally I don't care how much sugar I'm apparently consuming in a day since it's all "unavoidable" as part of my normal intake - especially now that I'm REALLY going out of my way to ditch foods with sugar added.

I think as long as you're not ADDING sugar to your intake in any way, and little things like milk in coffee and fruit/veg can probably be overlooked.

[L33SH]

Cool, thanks for your help Troy

I've been getting my protein up to 130g a day... considering I don't consume any meat I'm pretty happy with that! Just want to make sure I'm doing everything else right too.

[Trozzle]

Cool, thanks for your help Troy

I've been getting my protein up to 130g a day... considering I don't consume any meat I'm pretty happy with that! Just want to make sure I'm doing everything else right too.

haha not bad considering no meat

I've got a dietary question as well - I know this is nit picking over macros and I honestly don't care about this point, it's just more of a curiosity thing, but "protein" from random foods like bread, heated milk in coffee, and various other sources like rice and veggies - can your body actually use these proteins in the same way it uses those from more typical sources like meat? Just seems a bit silly to me counting them someone's daily protein intake, especially when they're usually such trivial values.

[L33SH]

haha not bad considering no meat

I've got a dietary question as well - I know this is nit picking over macros and I honestly don't care about this point, it's just more of a curiosity thing, but "protein" from random foods like bread, heated milk in coffee, and various other sources like rice and veggies - can your body actually use these proteins in the same way it uses those from more typical sources like meat? Just seems a bit silly to me counting them someone's daily protein intake, especially when they're usually such trivial values.

The main difference betweeen animal and plant protein is the amount of amino acid. The amino acids in animal protein is most similar to our proteins therefore able to be absorbed and used by the bodily more rapidly. Plant proteins have less amino acids.

Basically you need to consume 20 to 25% more plant based protein to reap the benefits that animal protein provides.

[jangles]

haha not bad considering no meat

I've got a dietary question as well - I know this is nit picking over macros and I honestly don't care about this point, it's just more of a curiosity thing, but "protein" from random foods like bread, heated milk in coffee, and various other sources like rice and veggies - can your body actually use these proteins in the same way it uses those from more typical sources like meat? Just seems a bit silly to me counting them someone's daily protein intake, especially when they're usually such trivial values.

If you don't count trivial sugars also, but at the end of the day it adds up to 200g sugar, did you not eat it?

[-FIGJAM-]

felt this needed to be shared.

also dunno about Markos's beginner workout, not sure why.

Squat 3 x 10

Bench 3 x 8

Row 3 x 8

Military 3 x 8

SLDL 3 x 8

BB Curl (happy troy?) 3 x 8

I am assuming you just hit the next set as soon as you feel right to lift the weight the required reps?

How come SLDL instead of regular deads? any particular reason?