Gym And Supplement Discussion

[bozodos]

yep according to women and mainstream media, ottermode = "buff".

f**k that.

[TM7GTR]

Bieber left his back in the gym

[No Crust Racing]

What's Ottermode?

[jangles]

Might have to up me vegies I think.

Just read that article, no way is his diet 17330kj

Being generous it's only 12500kj

[bozodos]

What's Ottermode?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ottermode

[No Crust Racing]

Consensus on foot position when squatting?

1 school is about shoulder width apart, a little angle on feet is fine.

The other tends to be, find the most comfortable position for you to allow you to get the depth you want and use that.

At the moment, with my lower back being a bit funny I've just started doing sets of 20 reps (no bar or weights just BW) and fiddling with feet position.

For me, feet outside shoulder width and a good 40+degrees of angle seems to be the most comfortable spot, anything narrower in the stance or straighter in the feet sees my butt want to roll under when going below parallel.

When I spoke with Matt last time, he said where is comfy but there appears to be a lot of conflicting info.

Thoughts?

[-FIGJAM-]

I squat more in line with the first train of thought. Can't help you as to which is right or wrong though mate

[TM7GTR]

Positioning depends on your mobility, and where it allows greatest depth with sound form.

Then work like hell on your mobility too...

[jangles]

Consensus on foot position when squatting?

1 school is about shoulder width apart, a little angle on feet is fine.

The other tends to be, find the most comfortable position for you to allow you to get the depth you want and use that.

At the moment, with my lower back being a bit funny I've just started doing sets of 20 reps (no bar or weights just BW) and fiddling with feet position.

For me, feet outside shoulder width and a good 40+degrees of angle seems to be the most comfortable spot, anything narrower in the stance or straighter in the feet sees my butt want to roll under when going below parallel.

When I spoke with Matt last time, he said where is comfy but there appears to be a lot of conflicting info.

Thoughts?

your mobility sucks.

[No Crust Racing]

Which implies you think the first point is the better one.

So how does one specifically improve that?

I'll be seeing a Podiatrist soon to see what's going on mechanically as I do not move anywhere near the same as I used to.

People often talk about "improving mobility" but how is that done really? Stretching? Stretching with weight? Actual exercises? Corrective equipment (orthotics etc)

My "bad" leg wants to rotate out and that foot wants to roll over onto the inside. How do you specifically fix something like that when it occurs with no weight on board.

[jangles]

Which implies you think the first point is the better one.

So how does one specifically improve that?

I'll be seeing a Podiatrist soon to see what's going on mechanically as I do not move anywhere near the same as I used to.

People often talk about "improving mobility" but how is that done really? Stretching? Stretching with weight? Actual exercises? Corrective equipment (orthotics etc)

My "bad" leg wants to rotate out and that foot wants to roll over onto the inside. How do you specifically fix something like that when it occurs with no weight on board.

How I've explained it before.Teach yourself how, by either reading how to, being taught by someone, watching someone do it etc.....

Its not something that happens over night and unless you correct the posture/mechanics that are causing it, whatever it is, it will forever remain.

I use a book called 'becoming a supple leopard' cost me $60, youve ignored the advice before, yet here we are. again.

edit: there are stronger people than me, who squat far more without any consideration for 'mobility', I'm not judging those people, just Dan.

[No Crust Racing]

Fair enough, I'm addressing things bit by bit and spending on trying to fix/avoid/repair etc so it's not like I'm not dong what's been suggested, sans buying a book, though I read plenty online.

The question is more so for those who have had success with a particular process/concept etc. You mention you bought a book, I'm reading online, we're both reading. I get what you are saying. What have others had success with? It's just a discussion.

If you're not up for that sort of discussion or have already thrown in your 2 cents, you don't need to reply. Not being a smart ass.

Edited October 15, 2013 by ActionDan

[jangles]

Fair enough, I'm addressing things bit by bit and spending on trying to fix/avoid/repair etc so it's not like I'm not dong what's been suggested, sans buying a book, though I read plenty online.

The question is more so for those who have had success with a particular process/concept etc. You mention you bought a book, I'm reading online, we're both reading. I get what you are saying.

If you're not up for that sort of discussion or have already thrown in your 2 cents, you don't need to reply. Not being a smart ass.

Well i could turn to chapter xx of said book and retype what i read about xxx movements/exercises to answer your question/s,

but in the time it takes me to do that, you could of ordered one and had it express posted and it would have everything at your finger tips, instead of it being regurgitated and having to still explain multiple times all the answers that would be in front of you in the informative book, compiled by a doctor.

Also, on the plus side, it will have many more indirect suggestions and other movements that you will most likely find very helpful.

I've had success with this, that's why I replied

[No Crust Racing]

"already thrown in your 2 cents, you don't need to reply. "

What is this thread/sub-forum coming to these days, almost can't talk about anything gym or supp related without somebody getting their nose out of joint.

Guess we better close the thread, as every topic has already been discussed and we never ever cross the same ground twice.

Your reply could have been as simply as;

"I think I mentioned before, I bought the book "Supple as a Leopard" for $60, best thing I ever did, give it a whirl".

I don't think I could be accused of not trying different things, but I haven't followed your exact suggestion of buying that book so judge away.

[shaunus]

No one can physically diagnose what your doing wrong by your explanation alone. Get a vid and upload it.

[jangles]

"already thrown in your 2 cents, you don't need to reply. "

What is this thread/sub-forum coming to these days, almost can't talk about anything gym or supp related without somebody getting their nose out of joint.

Guess we better close the thread, as every topic has already been discussed and we never ever cross the same ground twice.

Your reply could have been as simply as;

"I think I mentioned before, I bought the book "Supple as a Leopard" for $60, best thing I ever did, give it a whirl".

I don't think I could be accused of not trying different things, but I haven't followed your exact suggestion of buying that book so judge away.

People can ask questions all they like. yes, the topic is usually covered. The same person over and over again, gets repetitive.

All you want is someone to give you a magic bullet.

[No Crust Racing]

No one can physically diagnose what your doing wrong by your explanation alone. Get a vid and upload it.

It's all good, not expecting a web diagnoses.

This was just a general conversation topic more than anything.

"People often talk about "improving mobility" but how is that done really? Stretching? Stretching with weight? Actual exercises? Corrective equipment (orthotics etc)"

This was a bit more specific though.

"My "bad" leg wants to rotate out and that foot wants to roll over onto the inside. How do you specifically fix something like that when it occurs with no weight on board."

But I know the answer is almost always going to be, see someone, it could be a million things, show us a vid etc. Which I might do next gym session to add to the discussion and to assist anyone else who might come in here or have the same issue.

People can ask questions all they like. yes, the topic is usually covered. The same person over and over again, gets repetitive.

All you want is someone to give you a magic bullet.

I'm pretty verbose, not disputing that. SAU has a great ignore feature, I've got a few people on there so it might be a good idea to use that. Again, not being a smart arse, just a suggestion to make your life easier.

Not looking for a magic bullet at all, discussion, suggestions, sure. Yours was buy a specific book you liked, thank you for the suggestion. I'll keep it in mind if I have no luck at the Chrio and Podiatrist.

Edited October 15, 2013 by ActionDan

[jangles]

Sorry for the attack Dan, I just feel its a question you should know the answer to if you read about it/educate yourself. Questions are because you don't know the answer, usually.

Sorry for the assumption.

[No Crust Racing]

Your partly right, I don't know why my leg rotates out and my foot rolls in, I need to educate myself on that front. I'll see a specialist, do some more reading etc.

The rest is really just "in general, what improves mobility?" stretching specific exercises etc?

I "guess" the answer is all of the above and then some.

I see what you mean about wanting a magic bullet rather than just finding out the answers to those questions myself. Which after talking about it, is what I should be doing to some extent. By "to some extent" I mean because my "issues" are probably complicated by the previous injuries so a specialists still seems like a good idea to me.

No harm done.

[jangles]

Your partly right, I don't know why my leg rotates out and my foot rolls in, I need to educate myself on that front. I'll see a specialist, do some more reading etc.

The rest is really just "in general, what improves mobility?" stretching specific exercises etc?

I "guess" the answer is all of the above and then some.

I see what you mean about wanting a magic bullet rather than just finding out the answers to those questions myself. Which after talking about it, is what I should be doing to some extent. By "to some extent" I mean because my "issues" are probably complicated by the previous injuries so a specialists still seems like a good idea to me.

No harm done.

Yeah, also, my negativeness to the repetitive questions, they are different questions on your part, butt wink etc.

but they all stem down to pretty much the same issue usually.

Also, I'll re word.

The book I use has HEAPS of stretches/mobility exercises, using compression bands to floss, banded distractions with resistance bands, ball/foam roller/bar smashing/massage techniques, multiple ways to do the one thing, usually in 3 stages.

Also talks you through setup and execution of movements/lifts with common fault errors and ways to correct said faults.

I'll even YouTube te videos so I get a further understanding if I can't grasp it from the pics

All in all, best thing I've purchased equal to the implements to help excute the movements