I love F1 silly season

[Silver-Arrowz]

If MS doesn't score, then KR takes the crown. But what are the odds of that happening? Maybe it's time DC because useful and do a "schey" on schuey.

[EnricoPalazzo]

Kimi has to win dont forget.

It was an excellent result, and its a bit of justice to Ferrari as everyone is complainin about they had the best tyres etc, but Ferrrari have been serverly hindered all year from the Michelans.

So its justice me thinks.

GO SCHUEY.

[GRRR-31]

Yeah, although I would like to see someone other than schuey win, he deserves it. They changed the whole format of F1 to stop him from being so dominant and he's still going to win another championship, well done.

Spewing about Webber cauz he would have got his first podium for sure, same with Button. Oh well. Should be a good race at Suzuka anyway.

[Roy]

Ferrari use Bridgestones.

Not a bad idea Silver, if DC accidently goes a bit deep under brakes into turn 1 at the start of the Suzuka GP and spins a certain red car??? Schuey cops a Schuey !

[Duncan]

payback time

In fact the comentators made the same comment last night - montoya was 2 laps down in 6th and had to come 5th to have a chance to win championship.

Interestingly, Heidfield (5th) was directly in front of him (but only 1 lap down).....they suggested that montoya should take him out and inherit 5th....

[Bleach1]

I think webber either has bad luck or isnt the best in wet conditions when he is on the wrong tyres. I think it was in Silverstone 02' he touched the white line in greasy conditions and spun off. Brazil this year was driving around on drys and crashed out in a big way, on monday morning crashed out for a similar reason blowing a definite podium and possible 5th in the constructors championship. Webber is still an awesome driver but would somone such as MS have lost it in the same circumstances.

[Roy]

Interesting point. He has the speed in the wet, you only have to look at his results in the wet races from FF in Aus to driving F3 for Arrows thru to F1. He seems to get great results in the wet/gresy conditions, just look at wet qualifying sessions etc. Maybe just needs to show a little more caution.

Its hard to know the facts though, plenty of other drivers went off. In Brazil was it a rain thing, or was there somthing down on the track that made him spear off?

[Shrub32]

Webber wouldnt of finished on the podium due to the simple fact jaguar are on michelins! And take it easy on him he wasnt the only one to spin off when it got too wet. Enricco as for justise to Ferrari haha what a joke they dont deserve shite after all the moaning they made about the michelins being too wide i think the Michelin teams should protest the bridgestone wet just to fcuck them off. thats all Ferrari deserve sore losers and sore winners aahh im seeing red:mad:

I agree silver thats what schuey deserves, wonder if jacques remembers might not need dc to pull a schuey

[Roy]

Wasnt 2nd and 3rd places also on Michelins?

[Bleach1]

I think webber would have had a good shot at the podium, the michelins didnt slow Kimi down all that much. I do think we have alot to look forward to with Webber though. I mean i think the best way to measure a driver is against his team mates. In something like 32 starts webber has been out qualified twice and has scored something like 19 points to 1 or 2 against his team mates. Ok so Alex Yoong wasnt the best benchmark, but pizzonia and wilson are both good drivers who havent yet come close to webber. Will be very interesting when he gets a drive in one of the big 4 teams.

[Roy]

I agree, but i would like to see him stick at Jaguar for at least one more year, which looks to be the case.

If he goes to one of the big 4, it is always difficult to establish yourself especially if there is a driver entrenched there.

You see it all the time a very capable driver is made to look less capable due to team politics. Noone doubts Mark Skaifes ability, but look when he walked into HRT and the established Lowndes was his teamate and then later with Bright, JPM into Williams with Ralf.

Even dominant teams in F1 struggle to have drivers finish 1-2 in the championship, even in the glory days of Williams with Mansell/Patrese->Hill/JV & Coutlhard, and likewise with McLaren with Berger/Senna/Prost etc etc.

Equal equipment doesnt always mean equal opportunity even in teams with no recognised No.1, engineering support, testing, whose car gets the new parts before the other, who gets the older chassis?

[Bleach1]

i think the most unlucky person in recent history was michael andretti. Imagine comming into your first year of F1 and having Ayrton Senna as a team mate. No wonder he only lasted 1 dismal season.

[Shrub32]

Frentzen was on bridgstones

[Roy]

Frentzen was on bridgstones

Fair call... but Frentzen was also in a Sauber, i thought it would have balanced out:D

[Silver-Arrowz]

Just in. JV is gooone. Sata will be replacing him. Feel sorry for him. Rose to stardom then fell from grace. BAR was a big mistake.

Chances are he'll be out in the cold for 04 but Jaguar haven't signed anyone up for Webber's team mate.

[GRRR-31]

I've heard that JV's manager or something is trying to get him into Jordan to replace Firman or something.

[Silver-Arrowz]

Probably for 2 reasons he won't get a drive with Jordan.

1. Next year Jordan may be getting Mercedes engines. Alexander Wurz is a good recruitment cause he KNOWS mercedes engines and also has the mclarens know-how. Very valuable knowledge to be gained from him if they do get mercedes engines.

2. Jordan get extra sponsorship $ from Benson & Hedges for having an english driver. Leaves JV sh*t out of luck.

[Duncan]

hey silver, what's this "i want to have JV's babies" thing. I'm sure the bloke can drive, but his attitude is *disgraceful*. If I was running a company sponsoring BAR I'd be looking to have him out on his arse too!

He's so busy trying to psyche out and beat his teammates that he forgets to race against his competitors....

[Silver-Arrowz]

I don't want JV's babies. But I'll have Senna's if he was still around!

Yeah since eddie ervine's gone JV's the motor mouth in the pits. Next I'd say is Ralf. Rule 1 in F1 - never bag your own team/car.

[GRRR-31]

His team/car deserved to be bagged. I've lost count of how many times it's ****ed up this season.