New Member - Questions

[PHILSKY]

I am about to buy a r33 from Melbourne - almost ready to part with the cash, but have a few questions members might be able to assist with.

The car is a recent import and never been registered in Aus.

The seller has it complied and ready for rego in vic. Would it be better for him to register for 6 months in Vic and then just change to SA rego in a few months time OR

Get the car to SA and register it first up here?

He will give me a fair discount if I do the latter, but what implications does that have. The car is pretty stock except for 17" rims 235 tyres and a nice exhaust. Exhaust is a brand new Jasma stainless-steel 3.5" exhaust and muffler (cat back) with 4.5" tip, but is not loud just deep! He thinks I may have to put stock rims and maybe even stock exhaust to pass inspection?

Apart from that hassle I am ready to buy, flew over to Melbourne yesterday to have a look and Drive and it is excellent.

It is a stock auto, so it wont be breaking any performance barriers, but will keep the missus happy [it is mainly for her]

Any help or suggestions appreciated and sorry if this is a basic question, but....

[dnbutts]

get the car over here first. then get your zaust sound levels tested and the hight it is off the ground. make sure it has a cat in it. your rims are fine so long as the edge of them doest pass outside the guard. check your offset. im not sure what the legalities are there. i have some stock 33 rims for sale or hire if you need, along with the zaust too.

[SLED]

I'm no expert by any means but speaking from my recent experience with Sturt......if the seller can definitely prove compliance has been given (ie all the necessary documentation) and you are prepared to address the wheel & exh situation, then there's no reason why you couldn't get it through for rego in SA. The fact that it has never had Aussie rego before may be an issue as to whether you're allowed to take it to Sturt or if it has to go to Regency.

Ring Regency tomorrow and ask if a complianced import that's never had rego before can be taken to Sturt for ID inspection or whether it requires a more intensive inspection at Regency.

Nick (whiplash) on this forum would be the expert in regards to this matter.

[tm_r33]

exhaust and rims should not present a problem for rego as long as...

-exhaust is not over the prescribed sound level (94dB)

-wheels are not overly big (ie. extrude past the body of the car)

Perhaps to be on the safe side have him rego it first and then change to sa rego.

i do have mates who have bought cars that have never been regod in Aust and they thought they could rego them easy enough but it ended up being a 6 month battle with transport to get rego lol

as long as u see all import approval and appropriate documentation (compliance ect.) you shouldnt have a problem regoing the ca tho mate

[Skyenate]

Is there a reason he imported it and never got it registered?

[Madaz]

Jasma is a term used in Japan that means street legal, street legal in japan doesnt mean street legal here necessarily

Stock Auto ... better not tell Dangerman his ran up over 300RWKW with an auto wasn't stock but dont assume auto cant be strong and have performance

...brand new Jasma stainless-steel 3.5" exhaust and muffler (cat back) with 4.5" tip, but is not loud just deep! He thinks I may have to put stock rims and maybe even stock exhaust to pass inspection?

...It is a stock auto, so it wont be breaking any performance barriers, ...

[kralster]

He never said anything about a auto being slow... all he said was a stock auto won't be breaking any performance barriers. Which it won't.

[SLED]

exhaust and rims should not present a problem for rego as long as...

-exhaust is not over the prescribed sound level (94dB)

-wheels are not overly big (ie. extrude past the body of the car)

Perhaps to be on the safe side have him rego it first and then change to sa rego.

i do have mates who have bought cars that have never been regod in Aust and they thought they could rego them easy enough but it ended up being a 6 month battle with transport to get rego lol

as long as u see all import approval and appropriate documentation (compliance ect.) you shouldnt have a problem regoing the ca tho mate

Read all of the post mate, the seller is prepared to give him a fair whack off the sale price so just ring Regency first and go with what they say.

[tm_r33]

Read all of the post mate, the seller is prepared to give him a fair whack off the sale price so just ring Regency first and go with what they say.

yes i agree the money off is great. i just mean to say be causious.

getting rego on it before you buy it would eliminate any worries thats all. what ever state the rego may be for.

[D_Stirls]

You also have to ask the question why he is dropping the price when he's not registering it???

It makes me very suspicious and i suspect that not everything has been done for compliance.

EDIT!!

Since he's willing to drop the price put your salesman hat on and get him the rego it at the lower price and you pay for the 3/6 months rego. If everything has been done like he said it has then it should just be a fact of dropping off some forms and picking up the sticker, provided the inspection has been done which i don;t think it has by the sounds of it.

Edited May 4, 2008 by D_stirls

[Madaz]

having it rego'ed first definitely means its complied properly too

[SLED]

compliance is complaince, anywhere in Aust (ADR)

it either has been complianced or it hasn't, just read the docs and if its still confusing, ask Regency what docs are required for compliance

[Import S13]

the reason why he would take off abit of the price is because the owner now wouldnt have to pay for....

-temp. rego to drive the car to inspections

-inspection costs (could be 1-2 times going through)

-in melb you need a RWC $$$

-stamp duty costs (about 10% of the cars cost)

-rego costs

could be more that i cant remeber

a few grad there. in all honesty, id just find one in adelaide already rego'd. the money you save from him knocking off the price of the car youll end up spending getting it on the road unless your getting it for 5k.

shipping cost, temp rego cost then all the things i mentioned above except for the rcw. regency here are not very nice to straight off the boat cars and you HAVE to go to regency for a car that has never been rego'd in australia for a full inspection if you dont pass, the second time you can go to a cop shop like sturt unless you pull some dodgy shit like i did once haha

goodluck with your choice mate

kye

Edited May 4, 2008 by Import S13

[Nightcrawler]

I would definitely get him to rego it over there.

1). imagine you got it here and they an issue with compliance papers and needed more evidence or something = MAJOR headache.

2). they WILL make you put it over the pits at Regency if it has never been registered before and you just don't know if it has minor chassis dents from being moved with a forklift in Japan, minor hidden rust that they demand to be cut out, worn steering components that they demand are replaced, worn bushes, too loud exhaust, minor oil leaks, etc etc. The FURTHER it stays away from Regency the better!

[SLED]

I would definitely get him to rego it over there.

1). imagine you got it here and they an issue with compliance papers and needed more evidence or something = MAJOR headache.

2). they WILL make you put it over the pits at Regency if it has never been registered before and you just don't know if it has minor chassis dents from being moved with a forklift in Japan, minor hidden rust that they demand to be cut out, worn steering components that they demand are replaced, worn bushes, too loud exhaust, minor oil leaks, etc etc. The FURTHER it stays away from Regency the better!

if that is actually correct then regency could play hard ball........your objective is to get it to Sturt for ID inspection.

Where's whiplash?.....c'mon Nick we need your imput here

[Import S13]

^^^^ its correct. a full inspection is needed for a car to be rego'd if its never been rego'd before in this country and you MUST go to regency.

second inspections are able to cop shops etc.

to get a police id check the car must first be rego'd in another state before coming here and even then, the police could make for further inspections if they wanted and they will force you to take the car to regency.

Edited May 4, 2008 by Import S13

[SLED]

^^^^ its correct. a full inspection is needed for a car to be rego'd if its never been rego'd before in this country and you MUST go to regency.

second inspections are able to cop shops etc.

to get a police id check the car must first be rego'd in another state before coming here and even then, the police could make for further inspections if they wanted and they will force you to take the car to regency.

fair call Kye.....that puts a different light on matters

I suppose it depends how much the seller is prepared to reduce the price as to whether its worth the possible hassle of rego in SA

I always thought that import houses that do compliancing also included 3 or 6 mths rego in the total package unless it was brought over by a dealer for a stock order

[PHILSKY]

Thanks for all the input! All good and most makes sense.

The dude in Melbourne actually brings in lots of cars. He is the brother of the gut that runs High

Performance Japanese Imports. This company is a compliance holder and import agent as

well. They comply his cars.

The dude tell me that he has sold many card to guys in Adelaide - only recently a r34 I think to a bloke from Blackwood - around a month ago. [if you read the forum please let me know how your dealings have been!]

The seller in Melbourne is called Adam, from Taylors Hill

As far as reducing the Price, he will drop around $500-$600 I think - making it a pretty sweet deal. I know I will still have to pay rego and stamp duty here but.....

That would make the price under 13000 which seems by Adelaide standards as top value... especially for a supposed grade 4.5 auction paper - I have a copy of this

AS I said, it looks great - no obvious repair or damage or even dents and scratches, the interior is immaculate, and the engine seems fine as does the transmission. I really had trouble faulting this baby and believe me I was trying. I have arranged a RACV full inspection for later in the week as well, and he didnt seem to be concerned.

I just need to remember to keep thinking with my head to my desire! I really want this I think!!!!!!

Thanks guys and keep the comments and suggestions coming!

[morbsy]

to answer the wheel size question

max oem rim size was 16" so 18" are ok, as long as within 15mm overall diameter of originals

[D_Stirls]

For $600 get him to rego it there, that removes most of the risk and all you ahve to do over here is a quick ID inspection and everything is sweet. If it was $2k that he was dropping then that is a different story.

Edited May 4, 2008 by D_stirls