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naw.. sorry mate.. a nicely worked 180sx will kain your ass :) Sure he hasn't got the boost upped though?

They're only 1200kg or so.. that 200kg or so makes a big difference.

I've had a play with a few on the street... its always good fun. Standard the skyline is of course quicker, but generally put the same mods on an SR20DET powered s13 (either Silvia or 180sx) and the S13 will be fair bit quicker.

One of the reasons i am soon going to be selling my Skyline and getting one of them myself - so much cheaper and you can get similar power. Ok, sure they look cheaper, might look bit 80's style, maybe less reliable, blah, blah but don't care :)

maybe its your driving.... (hehe)

Your tyres, suspension, or a few other things....

I know most S13's have rock hard suspension, plus they have the 4:11 diff ratios which is always nice.....

I dont think i'd worry too much about losing to silvias etc....

Different car. r33's are much more refined, and a better driving car all round.

If your really worried about losing, stick a nice front mount intercooler on, and you will be winning easily....

If you're worried about your car, go get a dyno run done. That will show you if you're not making full power, or if there's any problems with the way it's making the power. Should cost between 60-100 bucks.

Stock, you should make between 140-150rwkw or 180-200rwhp.

I've got a full exhaust, podfilter, nothing else, and I got 149.2rwkw on the last run. (.2 is important)

all depends. its hard to compare any sr20det powered vehicle to a skyline. though i have to say when i was driving a s14a 200sx with 12psi filter + 3inch tbo back exhaust, i never lost to a skyline that was running standard turbo + computer. I have seen skylines with similar mods to 180sx and 200sx and silvia and win in a race. Although i believe both cars with similar mods, it would come down to the better driver and the car with better wheel and suspension set up. This is talking about a race from a standing start.

Depends whether u want full speed or more style and comfort.

i reckon they have do have street racer style with few visual improvements. To me a car can look ugly as shit, but if u know its gonna rip u then u have respect :)

all the r33 gts-t vs sr20det silvia s13/s14/s15 with similar mods that i have seen race have resulted in the sr powerd silvia kicking gts-t butt, reason the silvia i belive is a purpose built sports car where as a gts-t has a 4dr sedan/family car heritage!!!! so is a comodore ss equivalent souped up family car! GTR on the other hand is a supa car thats y they suspect that the r35 GTR i gonna distance it self from the skyline family.

its all been said before, 33 is a nicer car than a 180 all round.

i had 200rwkw (fmic, ecu, zorst boost etc) and ran a mates 180 with boost zorst, FMIC, NO ECU and the thing just leaped off the line like a frog everytime, about a car length ahead of me EVERY time! once rolling it was just about dead even, with me possibly just catching him if the road were long enough. Other silvias have surprised me with only minimal mods also.

As mentioned i think its the extra weight we carry that prevents really good launches. And yes, with the same mods the s13 will run away!

Sumfatchin, i hear you, i wouldnt swap!

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