D Jetro 32/33gtr

[Tomei_33]

i got another question guys... how much does it cost to install a power fc d jetro into an r32 gtr? my mechanic said he cant find something on the intake plenum and has to take the plenum out.. will take about 6-7 hours labour... this definitely does not seem right to me... anyone else know?i think he is looking for drill points or something?

[UWISSH!]

ive got one of these for my 33 gtr and when talking to my mechanic yesterday he said the plenum has to come off to fit, which im not too fussed about as i get charged f#*k all by him

[Tomei_33]

my mechanic first quoted 550, tuned, now it has gone up to 250-280 just for installation, then it went up again to 6-7 hours labour - $600-700 just to install... other places have quoted 600-800 installed and tuned... i dont know what the deal is

[im late]

In this case you should get the opinion of other mechanics (is you car still drivable?)

If they all quote around the same then you know your first mechanic is not telling fibs.

Sometimes mechanics charge you their "learning curve" time as they are not sure how to install.

Alternatively, why don't you consider DIY??

Check the link below:

http://paulr33.skylinesaustralia.com/docs/...powerfc-faq.htm

Great credit to the author!!

There is a section on installation...

Once installed correctly, car will start with a base tune. You can then drive to a tuner and just pay tune time. Save you plenty $$$

Edited June 19, 2008 by im late

[im late]

Tommy,

I think this answers you question about issue with Plenum:

Extracted from: http://paulr33.skylinesaustralia.com/docs/...powerfc-faq.htm

How do I hook up the D-Jetro Map Sensor Harness Kit?

There are various installation methods for the Djetro Map Sensor depending on the Car Model.

This will depend on your car - it's recommended to view the documentation for your specific Djetro model. The manual will be in Japanese but the wiring should be in clear english with pinouts etc. Evo Lancer CT9A do not have to do anything as the car runs a factory Map Sensor.Skyline RB26 customers must splice twin Map sensor into the Airflow meter signal wires on the std ECU loom. Nissan S15 customers must also manually splice a single Map Sensor into the harness (via AFM signal wire)

Below are instructions on how Skyline RB26 customers should connect up the Djetro kit.

It appears that D-jetro customers must splice the twin map sensors into the Boost Control Kit harness (or at least use the same port) to extract positive and negative power.

The signal for each MAP sensor is then connected to each of the AFM input signals on the main ECU loom.

So Map sensor #1 which is located near Cylinder #3 on the intake plenum runs to AFM input #1 on the ECU loom.

and Map sensor #2 which is located near Cylnder #4 on the intake plenum runs to AFM input #2 on the ECU loom.

For a more in depth diagram and guide please view the correct manual for your car's Djetro version as it will have correct Map Sensor wiring.

Diagram is in the link above

I hope the helps clear things up.

Edited June 19, 2008 by im late

[R34GTFOUR]

plenum had to come off, and it definately takes time to do that with the engine still in the car, its a bit of a pain in the ass. Going to be doing to my lil bros gtr soon, but we are taking the engine out at the same time so it should be easier (upgrading turbo and clutch)

[Tomei_33]

Tommy,

I think this answers you question about issue with Plenum:

Extracted from: http://paulr33.skylinesaustralia.com/docs/...powerfc-faq.htm

Diagram is in the link above

I hope the helps clear things up.

Thanks for the link Adam, I've looked into this and im not much of a DIY person so id best leave it up to the experts.. ill call around tomorrow and see what prices other mechanics are charging.. i remember calling around before and the prices were around 600-1100(tuned), depending on the place i went to.. ill check again anyhow

Edited June 19, 2008 by Tomei_32

[Tomei_33]

i found a mechanic that will do it for 800 tuned, i think ill go with them, they dont remove the plenum but have done it to other cars before so i guess it works, oil up the drill bit and use a vacuum.. works for me

[STATUS]

^^^^ f**k that, your on drugs if you think you can catch even half.... i bench tested this idea in front of a customer years back (and i even tried a greased drill bit on the 2nd runner) and it still drops enough in to worry me.

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Po...-3-t217875.html

[im late]

^^^^ f**k that, your on drugs if you think you can catch even half.... i bench tested this idea in front of a customer years back (and i even tried a greased drill bit on the 2nd runner) and it still drops enough in to worry me.

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Po...-3-t217875.html

+1 to Trent's comment!!!!!!!!!!!!

It does not matter how good your mechanic thinks he is with the good old drill bit trick, It is a risky procedure.

Get it done properly the first time. Pay the labour to remove the plenum, don't risk it man. Do you think for one second the mechanic will gaurantee in writing that NO metal fragments will enter the motor and that he will pay for any damages caused if they do???? I don't think so...

The golden rule.....

Pay more now.. Pay less later.

[Tomei_33]

+1 to Trent's comment!!!!!!!!!!!!

It does not matter how good your mechanic thinks he is with the good old drill bit trick, It is a risky procedure.

Get it done properly the first time. Pay the labour to remove the plenum, don't risk it man. Do you think for one second the mechanic will gaurantee in writing that NO metal fragments will enter the motor and that he will pay for any damages caused if they do???? I don't think so...

The golden rule.....

Pay more now.. Pay less later.

You guys seem to have a strong opinion against drilling it with the plenum in, I'd better do it the right way, whenever i skimp on costs, the golden always ALWAYS comes into play lol.. sounds like i better get it done right, lucky i asked Thanks to Trent and Adam for the concern, could have been possible engine problems otherwise

[im late]

:PBJ:

You guys seem to have a strong opinion against drilling it with the plenum in, I'd better do it the right way, whenever i skimp on costs, the golden always ALWAYS comes into play lol.. sounds like i better get it done right, lucky i asked Thanks to Trent and Adam for the concern, could have been possible engine problems otherwise

My pleasure

It's great to see that you are going to do it properly. You will able to drive with confidence with your new ECU install.

Edited June 21, 2008 by im late

[Brood]

I have an r32 gtr with the d jectro pfc. My tuner just spliced 1 map sensor with the fuel pressure regulator line and the other into the bov line. It has never missed a beat.

I later changed the intake manifold gaskets with hks ones and at that time I decided to drill the holes and connect it as per the manual. I saw no difference. Me thinks the idling is worse than before. The nuts under the manifold took forever.

[paul f]

so would it be ok to just hook the map sensors up to a vacuum port? not tap the manifold. i have a vacuum distrubition block on my brake booster line(its inline on the hose between the manifold and brake booster) i was planning on running each map sensor to each of its own ports. would that work? or do i really have to tap the manifold(frowns) its so hard to take off once the motors in the car.

[9krpm]

It's best to get pressure reading from the manifold. The further your sensors are from the manifold the lesser fluctuation in pressure they will see.

Mine is bridged but still get reading from one point on the intake manifold.

[rbs14kouki]

mine are at the end of the balance tube !!!

[Beer Baron]

absolutely you are mad if you get a mechanic to drill and tap your manifold with it still attached to your head. you WILL get swarf in there and it will most likely damage your engine.

6-7hour is reasonable to remove and refit manifold, replace intake gaskets and throttle gaskets and drill and tap the two holes required.

[SLIPPERY]

i presume xspeed or hyperdrive are doing the work, who do a lot of d-jetros?

[Tomei_33]

i presume xspeed or hyperdrive are doing the work, who do a lot of d-jetros?

hyperdrive are the ones that do the $800 install and tune package, but they dont remove the plenum, to remove the plenum ur looking at an extra $500 or so, thats what i was told.. heaps of people have had theirs installed with the plenum in, but i havent heard any problems.. if there were problems, i guess they wouldnt do it anymore?

[Blue32]

I've had my d-jetro map sensors coming off the balance tube too, just put a vacuum outlet in where the PCV used to be and then had a T piece split the signal to both sensors. At the time I thought it wasn't such a good idea, but I have since had the engine out and drilled and tapped as per the Apexi install instructions and notice NO difference to the way the car runs. I would spend <$20 on the parts to install via the T piece method and save the other cash for the tune.......