Help Me Upgrade R33 Gtr

[1400r]

standard r34 gtr turbo's?

mates 34 just made 287rwkw on a mainline so not far off 320rwkw

and cheaper to boot

(jzx100 made 247rwkw on same dyno then it made 305rwkw on a dyno dynamics latter that day)

[Mr. Keets]

u wuold change the cam gears to make 320awkw keets??

damn ur clueless... i was sittin on 296awkw on the dyno @ 15psi and runnin around 18psi when i got off.. thats over 300awkw

stock cams and stock cam gears and stock dump n front pipes....

stock injectors and fuel pump and regulator.. although things were gettin a lil lean by then. im also running what appears to be stock afms.

i wouldnt go for a 5puk clutch thou.. theyre nasty to drive and they wont like 4wd applications. save extra coin and go for a twin plate

the stock cams n gears r good for well over 320kw.... if u dont think so, look around the dyno thread and see how many ppl r makin close to 400awkw with stock items

Well arnt you great. BTW...320Kw @15psi. You don't need to run all the gear to make the numbers but it makes them easier at lower boost and the power comes on a bit earlier and is smoother in response. GTR-PWR asked for advice on "320Kw and responsive" and he got mine..your entitled to give yours.

[DAN00H]

Yeah apparantley they are not that bad anyway on the GTR's, or so i have been told. But its definantley worth it anyway.

Curious as to whether an Excedy Heavy Duty clutch would be able to handle 320awk's?

My mate says that it should last at least 3 years. Would be good to get some opinions on this matter. Cheers Guys.

LOL - Excedy HD WON"T last that long. I've got one in my GTR, only done about 2,000km and it slips if I launch hard. car was last dyno'd at 300rwkw when running lower boost, so i don't think they will handle it.

[Bumblebee]

anything but a twin plate will slip on a 4wd launch.. its too much stress for a clutch...

as for Keets... 15psi all depends on turbos. i could run a massive turbo and make 400kw on 10psi.. that doesnt mean my gears r efficent.. just means the turbo flows a shitload of air @ the boost

my turbos were only hi flows.. not garrett 2860's of any kind.

stock cams r perfect as are the stock gears.. u can play with the delivery of the power with the gears but ur only gonna move the powerband up or down.. so if u fatten ur mid section, u lose top end. simple

Edited June 30, 2008 by Bumblebee

[R33-RB26DETT]

Yeah, well it seems DAN00H can speak from experience...

Perhaps i will need to get a twin plate, but the problem is that are they REALLY that un-driveable for daily driving?

[Mr. Keets]

"my turbos were only hi flows.. not garrett 2860's of any kind."

So why are you quoting the dyno numbers...Please read the original post "

2530's Vs Garrets, 320Kw and response" I answered the question.

"...u can play with the delivery of the power with the gears but ur only gonna move the powerband up or down.. so if u fatten ur mid section, u lose top end. simple"

Yes and your point is...no wait, I'm no longer interested in your point

[Bumblebee]

No theyre not that undriveable.. i dunno what most ppl r on about..

ive driven quite a few cars n raced some with twin plates.. they arent that bad.. theyre like a button clutch

nothing u cant get use to.. actualyl theyre not as bad as a button because u can ride a twin plate

im quoting dyno numbers Keets because u obviously dont know anything about the REAL abilities of the stock items.. u claim u need cams and cam gears to get that power when u simply do NOT need them

the stock units are PERFECT for that power.

I have been advise to leave the stocks all upto near 400kw's.. sure u can change the cams and gears, but do u need to?? NO.. so why waste money??

Edited June 30, 2008 by Bumblebee

[Swiper the Fox]

anything but a twin plate will slip on a 4wd launch.. its too much stress for a clutch...

as for Keets... 15psi all depends on turbos. i could run a massive turbo and make 400kw on 10psi.. that doesnt mean my gears r efficent.. just means the turbo flows a shitload of air @ the boost

my turbos were only hi flows.. not garrett 2860's of any kind.

stock cams r perfect as are the stock gears.. u can play with the delivery of the power with the gears but ur only gonna move the powerband up or down.. so if u fatten ur mid section, u lose top end. simple

bit of misguided information here..especially above...

I raced for 3 seasons on a SINGLE PLATE clutch, dumping it at 8500-9000rpm with over 400AWKW on sticky drag strips 60'ing in the 1.5's and as low as 1'4's...never slipped once...plenty of spirited street abuse as well as countless dyno comps...probably the best performance part ive evr bought for any car ive ever built or owned.

Ive set cam gears to make gains throughout entire rev range...some parts very small gains but yes gains everywhere. None of this "rob peter to pay paul" (pardon the pun) stuff your on about.

your right about the cams though...stockers dialed in right with small low-mounts do the trick. No cams but id fit gears to them.

my 2 cents

Edited June 30, 2008 by DiRTgarage

[Tomei_33]

bit of bullsh1t here..especially above...

I raced for 3 seasons on a SINGLE PLATE clutch, dumping it at 8500-9000rpm with over 400AWKW on sticky drag strips 60'ing in the 1.5's and as low as 1'4's...never slipped once...plenty of spirited street abuse as well as countless dyno comps...probably the best performance part ive evr bought for any car ive ever built or owned.

Ive set cam gears to make gains throughout entire rev range...some parts very small gains but yes gains everywhere. None of this "rob peter to pay paul" (pardon the pun) stuff your on about.

your right about the cams though...stockers dialed in right with small low-mounts do the trick. No cams but id fit gears to them.

my 2 cents

can i ask what single plate clutch u had? dont tell me its a Jim Berry? that name comes up everywhere- sorry for being off topic

[Swiper the Fox]

can i ask what single plate clutch u had? dont tell me its a Jim Berry? that name comes up everywhere- sorry for being off topic

ok if i cant tell you it was a Jim Berry "full monty" then i cant tell you what clutch it was...

[Tomei_33]

ok if i cant tell you it was a Jim Berry "full monty" then i cant tell you what clutch it was...

ok dont talk to me then hahaha thanks for the info -anyway, back on topic guys >.>

[Bumblebee]

lol @ full monty.. the highest rated single plate ive ever seen was a 500hp unit...

from exedy.. hks one is rated lower and so is almost everyone elses..

give us details of this clutch champ.. otherwise.. ur talkin shit

[R31Nismoid]

Its been in the drivetrain section for years

Leewah also used one i believe, as do many other big power GTR's

[Bumblebee]

Very interesting clutch.. although a few ppl have destroyed the clutch while rev dumpin??

still thou, sounds like an awesome clutch.. i did say most singles

theres bound to be some insane singles out there.. but i didnt think so cheap

[R33-RB26DETT]

Im confused whats the name of this Single Plated Clutch which is capable of holding 500hp?

I will do a search in the drivetrain section, just need to name and model number.. cheers.

If its cheap and can hold that kind over power then i will look into grabbing one myself.. Cheers Guys.

[benm]

Just do a search for Jim Berry, he makes awesome clutches. I used 1 for about 8mths before my flywheel smashed but it was the best clutch ive ever used in my life. Not a hint of slip, not too heavy and can be daily driven without driving around looking like a kangaroo.

My next clutch however will be a twin plate (probably a Nismo super coppermix).