Just A Question

[dan_the_man]

where is reckless driving found? i couldnt see it in the road saftety Act?

[gazal]

Ok.. funny someone started this tread, as it so happen i got my licence suspension for 2mths for careless driving. I didn't speed around the conner all i did was accelerated too soon after the conner, crashed into 2 parked cars and there's was another car coming towards me who rammed the rear of my car.

This happened in Feb.. Went to court last week, got a $250 fine, 12 months good behavior bond and 2 month suspension. I fee naked

[some_cs_student]

Both Reckless and Careless are summons offences for court. There is now a penalty notice for careless driving but I believe only can be issued to offending driver in circumstances of minor accident with no injuries.

Since when? Careless used to be a fine a couple years ago, no summons no demerit point loss.

[R31Nismoid]

Its all changed in recent years from memory.

the fines and what not are not what i used to pay

[gdogzgtr]

As long as I've been in vicpol (7 YRS) Careless has always been a court appearance/summons offence. That's why we issue so many fail to have full control of vehicle or fail to drive sufficent distance behind a vehilce fines as they are penalty notices/on spot fines. Saves us a lot of time/paperwork.

And as you see in other thread about assault offenders avoiding jail the courts are stuffed and that's why we issue fines over summons when ever possible because it's just a waste of our time taking most people to court.

[some_cs_student]

As long as I've been in vicpol (7 YRS) Careless has always been a court appearance/summons offence. That's why we issue so many fail to have full control of vehicle or fail to drive sufficent distance behind a vehilce fines as they are penalty notices/on spot fines. Saves us a lot of time/paperwork.

My apologies then, I'm confusing careless driving with failure to have full control of vehicle. I'll edit my above post.

EDIT: I can't edit my previous post for some reason, unless an admin wants to do it for me

[_bobo_]

UPDATE: sitting at home quietly knock on the door.....they finally issued me the summons....charge is for careless driving....which ill probably plead guilty as it was my fault no one was hurt which is lucky but wasnt intentional so yeah. im going to seek legal aid and get advice though.

just quick question jeans and t-shirt or shirt n nice pants

[Ruffels]

mate, no one here will agree with me coz they are all so perfect lawfully abiding citizens...

however, if i were you i'd be pleading not guitly.... and claiming there was oil on the road! especially in an intersection where cars sit for quite some while waiting to turn... oil residue there is quite likely! in which case it really doesnt matter how fast you were or wernt going! it was going to happen.... it may not be the truth... but it may save your licence and job!

unless you admitted to the cops that you were travelling to fast?

in which case... bad luck!

[R31Nismoid]

lol lying in court...

Its bad enough cops tell lies in court, stooping to their level would be a new low

[_bobo_]

well oil does come up on the road after its rained from residu left or something ive heard....and i wasnt speeding..but yeah it was just careless as i didnt adjustmy driving condition to the road conditions which happened to be wet and slippery from amounts of rain or oil that comes up.

[RBPOWA-(TJ)]

yeah oil's a bitch , your fomr SE i see , noble park , douglas and heatherton rd round about , any fast then 10-15 in wet your gone, lower dandy road and boundary road round about, no chance in that , when i had my holden i ended up on that round about, even at 25kph i had no control what so ever.

but good luck withe court case, i would of been packing cause of there anti-hoon laws and how there hitting SE, lucky you still got your car

[cjpwrx]

hey dude i was summone to court for careless driving about 2 years ago, careless is alot worse than reckless driving. The law states that Careless driving can be 1month imprisionment and up to a $30,000 fine, i doubt you will get either of these well im pretty certain.

It all depends on the judge on the day and your driving record. I wore suit paints and a nice shirt mum came with me and also got a lawyer through my sisters work. I ended up getting with just a $1500 fine and a 2 year bond a road trauma cause and defence driving corse but i was being alot more stupid but it still came under the Careless driving law.

I would just admit to saying you where in a bit of a hurry and didnt relise it was that slippery.

Anyways good luck mate let us know how you go.

Cheers

Chris

[Sklyn]

Ruffels,, The only honest person here....lol...

[THR34T]

i got summoned end of october for not giving way to a taxi which was over 1k away... thats going to be fun..

[Ruffels]

lol lying in court...

Its bad enough cops tell lies in court, stooping to their level would be a new low

lol yeah well..." if you can't beat em'... join em' " ... isnt that the old saying? lol

plus they have to prove your guilt beyond all reasonable doubt...

i find the chance of oil on the round a good chance, which is also an external factor

yes you can adjust driving style for wet conditions... however its almost imposible to adjust for say "black ice" or "oil slick"

the dude on the front page of todays paper blamed a cat, so why can;t you blame oil? lol

"fu*k teh po'leece"