Detune Gtr's

[donkey]

hey hey,

so i understand why car manufacters 'detune' cars, that 'gentlemans agreement' of 207kw, restrictive exhaust, small injectors, turbos etc.

why wouldnt they just sell the cars with all the mods; maybe along the lines of; GTSS turbos, dumppipes, decent size injectors, decent fuel pump, i mean these add ons wouldnt cost that much more to sell on the car, but for us to upgrade costs thousands, sell the car with these bits, a restrictive exhaust and bugger all boost, i mean after all people do is change them all anyway, or is it a way for the car manufactures to make a killing of us, selling us aftermarket parts?

[VB-]

cost to do so is outweighed by the fact that so few people wouldn't buy them like that, not from them anyway. its not worth there time

and emissions might be an issue aswell

[GTS4WD]

Because then we wouldnt have this wonderful scene of ours...

[arbess]

There are about 1,000,000 ways to answer your question, some of them are:

1: Cost - If a manufactured did what you said, they wouldnt make profit because their target market wouldnt be able to afford it.

2: Reliability - Building it to its maximum and lowering the factor of safety doesnt make a good car. As you know, cars are designed to go well over 100,000 km. Sure they can do it, but again, for how much.

They are the two i can think of.

Simple logical reasons you probably use everyday, but just on a large large scale.

[scathing]

OEMs are penny pinching, unless their brand's reputation can let them afford not to be.

If they can save $5 a car they will, since over a hundred thousand cars that's $5 million. Imagine saving $5 a part, on all the parts you replace. Why do you think most mass produced cars have such nasty press-bent exhausts with ugly welds? Its because doing the job properly takes time and money, two things OEMs hate to lose. One OEM used to brag that the entire speaker set in their most popular car only cost them $20 - that attitude explains why most factory stereos have traditionally sounded like shit.

Manufacturers don't want you modding your car anyway, especially in "undetectable" ways. They overengineer their cars (for the performance provided) to last a long time, for warranty and reputation purposes. If they put bigger "bolt ons" while keeping the core block etc as "affordable" (read cheap) as they do, the cars become less reliable. If they upgrade the core, that's even bigger dollars.

If you choose to mod your car, the hardware changes are easy to detect and they can just void your warranty should something break.

[Bakes]

Because selling them with all those mods would scare the sh*t out of some people when they drove it because it would be too fast for them

[donkey]

hmm yeah all good points!

cheers for the input aye

[GTR-N1]

There are about 1,000,000 ways to answer your question, some of them are:

1: Cost - If a manufactured did what you said, they wouldnt make profit because their target market wouldnt be able to afford it.

2: Reliability - Building it to its maximum and lowering the factor of safety doesnt make a good car. As you know, cars are designed to go well over 100,000 km. Sure they can do it, but again, for how much.

They are the two i can think of.

Simple logical reasons you probably use everyday, but just on a large large scale.

^^^ and...

3: Warranty - If a new owner of such potent vehicle were to be granted a license to fang it, he'd get pretty disappointed if the dealer didn't replace a clutch,, rotors, turbo, CV etc. No the dealer would do better if we were the bunnies that added things on; and became individualistic about it.

Caveat Emptor