R33 series 2, min mods Vs A3 turbo, chiped

[=KowP=]

hey all... i was curious as to who would know about the race that i am currently dreading. i have an R33 in a compliance workshop and should be able to drive it in about 3-4 weeks. it has zorst, pod filter, hks suspension. My mate has an Audi A3 turbo that he is in the process of getting it "APR Enhanced" which is basically the new age chip.

whos gonna win???? his car goes ****en well. and apparently this chip makes heaps of difference with the boost settings and torque curve ect.

im scared.

[Spook's_Skyline]

how big is the a3 turbo engine?

if its teh 1.8 litre, u will cane it

[hippy]

depends how good u can drive

[SS8_Gohan]

u mean a S3? I don't know my Audi's, but i thought that was the turbo hatch one... Doing some research on S3's a little while back and they're good for 0 - 100km in about 6.5, 6.7secs. But full boost comes on ridiculously low, like, 1500 or 2000rpm's. So with a chip, maybe low, flat 6 seconds. R33 bout the same, should be a close race!

i think they are 1.6l turbo's... not sure... 1.8 prob sounds more right.

cheers

[=KowP=]

its an A3 turbo, 1.8L, front wheel drive, 4 door. stock is about 6 or 7 psi, but with this enhancement is spose to go to about 14.

its a brand new one. 2003. damn nice car.

[Mackaman]

It all depends what model your dragging. If it's the A3 1.8ltr turbo (110kw - 0-100 8.2sec) which i think your talking about I wouldn't be worried at all especially if the drag is to 100+ however if its the S3 (99 Model - 154kw 0-100 6.8sec/ 2002 Model - 165kw - 0-100 6.6sec) I would probably be quite worried especially with the APR ECU which is claimed to increase power to 195kw and torque to 362nm.

Formal specs for the APR ECU for standard A3 1.8ltr for your reference is as follows - 112kw to 146kw/154kw(VVT) and 325nm torque. so as long as your skyline pulls low 6secs or under you should be sweet

BE WARNED! if he has APR stage III or Stage III+ kit don't drag him unless you want to lose, 210hp and 310hp respectively in a car that weighs 1100kg, would be pretty potent. Anyway hope this helps.

[Guest chux]

just to clear a few things up, the apr software gives you 2 choices of program on top of the original program.

98 octane prog is 154kw and 104 octane is 169kw

you could probably beat him quite easily if you were running higher than standard boost on your 'line.

[yogi000]

Just remember he'll be pulling about 150 kw easy with a car that weighs about 1200kg which is a pretty good power to weight ratio.

My work mate has an A3 turbo with the full oettinger works on it and pulls really well, it was doing runs at eastern creek about 2 months ago if anyone saw it.

[Guest INASNT]

Aint the turbos in the euro cars extremly small and designed for low rpm torque not peak?? They would be way out of their efficiency range running at 14psi. My friend has a new Golf GTI 1.8 turbo, u cant even tell that it has a turbo, its so smooth compared to a japanese turbo car. Also its preety farking slow even tho it is a light car 0-100 in 7.6 or sumthing.

[=KowP=]

My work mate has an A3 turbo with the full oettinger works on it and pulls really well, it was doing runs at eastern creek about 2 months ago if anyone saw it. [/b]

is that white A3T with 18's deep dish? ran about a 15 flat, by memory.

bloody nice cars.

[yogi000]

yeah thats him, you should see it on a curcuit.....at its best.

[Guest chux]

not with costa driving it

[yogi000]

hahahaha he wont be now....he just drives STA blue mercs

[Nismodified]

get your launches right and the worst that can happen is that you'll be neck to neck.

[yogi000]

RS4 Video

Check this audi RS4, the driver has abit of a lead foot or massive boots!

[Mighty Highlights]

From the other side (the Audi forum perspective)

Audi Forum Audi A3 1.8T vs R33 GTS-T debate

Yeah the euro turbos are small.... thats why we need to upgrade to garetts to make serious power. But the stock full torque at 2k rpm is nice.

[Parag0n]

Go the skyline !

whats your mates audi rev to ?

[=KowP=]

off the top of my head i think its red line is 6500 rpm.

im sure he will correct this, if its wrong, when he sees this reply.

[Mighty Highlights]

The redline in my A4 (1.8t) Quattro. Is ~6300 indicated. But the limiter on a chipped car doesn't kick in till about 7200 i think.

That said because the turbo is so small (the kkkO3) it can not push anymore air (hold 14 psi boost) once you get past about 5500. So there is not point reving it any higher, as you get more power by changing gears.

If he had a K04 this would give him about 185 kw and the power band would be about 1krpm higher.

[EVOIV]

I'd say it'll be close, but I'm only guessing cos I dunno how much the Audi puts out and how heavy it is. Sounds like it's pretty decent though. The new GTA type Alfas look pretty nice too, got some go in that thing. Turbo european cars, guess that's the Japanese influence