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Then they said about buying a new car which is atleast $20 000 with all the safty features but thats abit of funding for some P Platers and the other guy said, you either pay $20 000 for a new car or say goodbye...

[JamesK]

Well if thats all it takes then why doesn't the government subsidize some of the cost for first time P platers? If it could save lives I think that would be pretty good to implement no? As for the US question the driving age varies from state to state (and being 50 states there is a lot of variation) but there is a big difference in the way it works compared to Australia for example in high school we have driver ed, we have mandatory driver training at least a couple times a month during particular sems. Also in some cases without passing this class you would be denied a license another big difference is that in some states to cut down on "hooning" they arrange free track days which I notice to be quite effective. A lot of my friends who go to track days have really good attitudes they know what belongs on a track and what doesn't

[rh1n0]

Well if thats all it takes then why doesn't the government subsidize some of the cost for first time P platers? If it could save lives I think that would be pretty good to implement no?

Exactly, maybe they should get rid of the first home buyer's grant and put it towards first car buyer's. Of course, they can have their restrictions (ie. cannot buy a Ferrari as a first car) and whatnot, but for those who just want to buy a Corolla or Prius it would be perfect. After all, how many statistics are there that proves people that buy a house for $7,000 or $14,000 less die as a result?

Edit: Just have a look at what car I will be driving when I get my P's..

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Edited November 11, 2008 by rh1n0

[Rekin]

A fair increase in rural areas (all according to the below), some interesting numbers in there too etc.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/9032/2007-australian-road-toll/

2 p-platers a week dying is a bad thing, but whats that stat compared to the rest?

730 p-platers out of 1616. So about half.

But does that take into account the times of day they are on the roads? What kinds of traffic?

What factors were involed? (speed/drink/drugs/sleep etc)

2 p-platers a week is 104 p-platers in a year. Your calculation is 2per day

6% of total deaths on the road are P-Platers in Australia, using your 1616 total

[Damo_c]

And everyone knows that 80% of statistics are bullshit.

Its unfortunate that people die driving cars wheather its a 18y.o p plater, a 35 year old father or a 80 y.o grandmother.

Know matter what they do, its a fact of life. I never read or saw the 60 min interview but the only way i see deaths being slowed down on the road are 2 ways.

The 1st being electric cars on tram tracks for everyone as what have been tested before in the states, but people could then argue what if a elcectrical fault happens, the cars could cause a nose to tail effect which many lives could be lost.

The 2nd is similair to what the r35 has for on racetracks. Speed limited to certain roads(its the future i believe in 20 years), the thing with that is that you can die at 35km/h in a 80 km/h zone if you get hit in the right spot.

The way i see it, people are always going to die, from the day the first car was driven it set off a chain reaction and now there is no way to stop it. Car manufacturers can put all the saftey devices they like, unless it can set off a huge bubble wrap around the car just before the accident, people will die.

Its a matter of the driver in most cases of how the drive. What were the stats in the 40s, 50s, 60s, a hell of a lot less died then what they are now and they never wore seat belts. Yes i know a lot of that has to do with more people driving, but a lot has to do with the power of cars and the stress in our lives(trying to make the cash to survive). Alcohol is more produmanantly drunk by 16-25y.o then what it was 50 years ago so that can have a cause to it aswell.

There are so many reasons that it is ridiculas to even try and make solutions, through the evolution of the world is the regret of the past.

[R31Nismoid]

2 p-platers a week is 104 p-platers in a year. Your calculation is 2per day

6% of total deaths on the road are P-Platers in Australia, using your 1616 total

Oh yeah true... im a retard so it stands to reason.

If its only 6% of the road toll - then i give the give GET f**kED to the 'younger driver expert people'.

6% is not a problem, the other 94% is.

Yes its loss of young life, yes its loss of young life... but its dick all in real world terms if its only 104 people a year. Thats just so small its not funny.

im still laughing @ my horrid maths

[Mohsen]

let me get this straight...

they want me to drive a corolla or a yarris for my P's?

i would rather hang myself

[Swiper the Fox]

Oh yeah true... im a retard so it stands to reason.

If its only 6% of the road toll - then i give the give GET f**kED to the 'younger driver expert people'.

6% is not a problem, the other 94% is.

Yes its loss of young life, yes its loss of young life... but its dick all in real world terms if its only 104 people a year. Thats just so small its not funny.

im still laughing @ my horrid maths

When i had my P's you only had them for a year...now you have them for 3 years...so there are at least THREE times the amount of P platers on our roads....so yes...more P platers are killed now...simple logic.

[Rekin]

When i had my P's you only had them for a year...now you have them for 3 years...so there are at least THREE times the amount of P platers on our roads....so yes...more P platers are killed now...simple logic.

Now with the new law, it is 4 years. 1yr red + 3yr greens hehe