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So i cant even have 1 beer with dinner and then drive home?

Great F*&king idea.

Pretty much, yes.

There is no single way of knowing, short of a real BAC if you're over or not.

That one beer affects you and the next guy or girl beside you differently. Would also stop the bullshit "buy I've only had one..."

When was the last time you heard of a p plater drink driver killing themselves? Not for a long time cause they're not allowed to. Same logic it will reduce around 75% of drink drivers cause they now know "0.00 means no beers with dinner"

As to the voluntary breath tests, what if you walk out of that police station and go "they said I'm fine" drive down the road, hit a pole and it's determined you were over the limit and the cause of te accident?

That voluntary breath test was your deciding point to driving or not... It said you were fine, but you weren't, now you're dead... What's your family going to think?

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I didn't fine that person for prohib vehicle because they didn't deserve it. They weren't allowed to drive from there regardless because the car was not reg. If it was just the prohib veh I wouldn't let them drive from that spot either, ticket or no ticket.

I can't tell you what we can see when we punch in regos. However I will say this, don't drive a prohib vehicle ;)

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how about a ride along? do they still do those? someone might accidently see what came up on the screen then i guess, plus im curious how well this camera that picks up all the nearby unreg cars works. very Sci fi stuff!

We don't do ride alongs. Thats more an American thing.

As for info on the "camera" that picks up unreg cars. Just google ANPR.

As for what we see, if you use your imagination a little most of what you come up with is what we see.

You see Bewbs too?

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lol...bewbs...

anyway yeah that sucks, the americans at least have that on us. Only dealt with US cops in Hawai and they were very cool, not quite 'five-O yo' but nice guys nevertheless.

will have to make do with more tales of paper scissors rock and blind drunk, nine month pregnant speeding P platers.

See how quickly this stuff gets exaggerated? gotta love the interwebs..

We don't do ride alongs. Thats more an American thing.

As for info on the "camera" that picks up unreg cars. Just google ANPR.

As for what we see, if you use your imagination a little most of what you come up with is what we see.

TT did a ride-along before.

Hey they're my initials :w00t:

TT and other shows like "The Force" can do it, however they would have to sign a whole bunch of waivers etc.

Yeah sure the public could sign wavers, but it looks worse if one of you dies. Also we're not a zoo, we do have a job to do. Honestly we have no time to entertain the public in "ride alongs."

It would just become too complicated.

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we're not a zoo

lol classic.

though im sure it feels like a bit of a zoo out there sometimes, especially on a full moon? yeah not surprised you can bring mates along with all the OH&S/liability issues these days but it was worth a shot.

speaking of being watched, do you know the rules on filming you guys? i had an incident on the train the other night where a passenger was wrestled off for not having a ticket. Took six transits and eventually a few cops to drag the well dressed drunk kicking and screaming to the lifts at Eastwood.

(last train to Wyong at 0015 on a friday, always entertaining)

anyway some tourists pulled out their iphone and crowded around giggling and recording away, eventually a transit cop peeled off and told them to 'P off' but not before making them delete the offending footage.

this reminded me of a female cop a few months back who got in some bother for chasing off a bystander for doing same, her expletive ridden rant went national i believe. anyway i understand how annoying it would be to have some noob in your face with a camera like that but can you really force them to stop/delete footage?

just curious

anyway some tourists pulled out their iphone and crowded around giggling and recording away, eventually a transit cop peeled off and told them to 'P off' but not before making them delete the offending footage.

t but can you really force them to stop/delete footage?

just curious

Officially? We're allowed to be filmed.

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lol classic.

though im sure it feels like a bit of a zoo out there sometimes, especially on a full moon? yeah not surprised you can bring mates along with all the OH&S/liability issues these days but it was worth a shot.

speaking of being watched, do you know the rules on filming you guys? i had an incident on the train the other night where a passenger was wrestled off for not having a ticket. Took six transits and eventually a few cops to drag the well dressed drunk kicking and screaming to the lifts at Eastwood.

(last train to Wyong at 0015 on a friday, always entertaining)

anyway some tourists pulled out their iphone and crowded around giggling and recording away, eventually a transit cop peeled off and told them to 'P off' but not before making them delete the offending footage.

this reminded me of a female cop a few months back who got in some bother for chasing off a bystander for doing same, her expletive ridden rant went national i believe. anyway i understand how annoying it would be to have some noob in your face with a camera like that but can you really force them to stop/delete footage?

just curious

Law says it's all good in public areas, but if you're going to do so, be polite and respectful. If you're taking videos and being narky and up in people's faces, yeah, I can imagine they'd get shitty.

edit::

have a read of this:

http://4020.net/words/photorights.php

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jesus that link is a long read, got some way into it though and basically yeah.

as long as your not filming upskirts on the westfield escalator your pretty much free to 'document' away. I might have to be a smart arse next time i see a transit telling people to delete perfectly legally filmed footage. Otherwise they could be opening themselves up to legal action if the hapless activist suddenly found they had deep pockets and plenty of free time.

they have already demonstrated they have the latter so..

oh and whats with this offence 'disobeying police directions' how far can that go ? I had a cop tell me to move on when i was typing away on my laptop at town hall station while on a break one night on a back shift. Wanted to to get some air but not miss on the SAU forum shenanigans, it was past midnight and apparently i would be a hazard due to my laptop attracting thieves!

get their logic but again and just curious here, could i have pushed it and stood my ground?

dont you hate pedants like me?

Laptop attracting thieves?

Did he suggest it to you or give you a move along direction. You"re within your rights to sit there.

As for disobeying a police direction, it's basically as simple as it sounds. If police tell you to do something that's reasonable and legal and you disobey it then you are disobeying.

Eg: man refuses to move his car off the road as it's blocking traffic. It's reasonable to ask him to move his car and it's an offense to block traffic. Refusal would result in disobey police direction... Amongst other things, it's usually like an add on charge.

Laptop attracting thieves?

Did he suggest it to you or give you a move along direction. You"re within your rights to sit there.

As for disobeying a police direction, it's basically as simple as it sounds. If police tell you to do something that's reasonable and legal and you disobey it then you are disobeying.

Eg: man refuses to move his car off the road as it's blocking traffic. It's reasonable to ask him to move his car and it's an offense to block traffic. Refusal would result in disobey police direction... Amongst other things, it's usually like an add on charge.

The corollary to that is that if the officer had told Pat to move even though he's minding his own business and not impeding anything, he should be free to say "no thankyou, I'm fine" without repercussions.

Wow this got off track quick compared to how it started :)

hehe yes sorry i think i can take a tiny amount of the blame for the thread derailing but hey, im sure someone will see the topic and jump in with an angry tale of race baiting cops in a bright coloured Falcodore with shiny rims trying to drag them off at the lights or tailgating them.

In fact speedwhore (or Sid in RL) had just that happen on the way up to wakefield last friday night, apparently the guy sat right on their bumper for miles and only took off when someone flew past them at speed.

Seen this complained in the letter pages of car mags now and then (so it must be true not apocryphal..right?) and i dont know, i sure wouldnt brake test a cop but i would slow right down so he had to pass and take down his details, therefore allowing me to, yes, write an angry letter!

anyway back to threadjack, cop seemed pretty clear about moving me on. More of a direct order than a request and there was enough of them for me to comply quite hastily (plus im generally quite meek and compliant with authority for all my internet bluster).

Wasnt a big deal though it was just a little odd and made me wonder how far that power extended..could they tell you to move on just because they didnt like your shoes/car/stupid hair? Actually i woudnt have a problem with that last one..

Eitherway John just cleared it up with his example of the car blocking traffic etc, good to see someones applying the law appropriately.

(though seriously you really should consider booking people for bad hair, its getting crazy out there..almost zoo like).

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Straight off the books.

A police officer may give a direction to a person in a public place if they have reasonable grounds to believe that the person's conduct or presence is:

a) harassing or intimidating persons;

b) obstructing people or traffic;

c) likely to cause fear to a person of reasonable firmness;

d) for the purpose of obtaining or supplying prohibited drugs;

That's what's called an "official move along direction". He had no power to tell you to move, 90% of this job is bluff, we wear the uniform so most people will do what we say. Either way it's not a huge deal, but I certainly wouldn't order you to move. I might suggest to you that it's a bit dodgy to be hanging around here with a laptop, but then I'd just leave it with you to do whatever you wanted.

edit: TBH I don't even know why he cared so much... everyone's different.

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Thanks again John,

always amazed you can ignore my lame jokes and get straight to the point but still in a helpful and friendly manner.

Obviously a lot of dealings people have with the police depends on the person in the uniform but do you find the training and culture changed you in anyway? made you more suspicious generally? less tolerant? more appreciative of free time and relieved when you can go out in public on a day off and not have everyone staring at you?

just some wild guesses but?

oh and love the cop speak in this

cause fear to a person of reasonable firmness

i would like to think im a person of firmness, reasonable firmness even. would anyone care to check?

/sorry couldnt help it

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/// slashies :)

Obviously a lot of dealings people have with the police depends on the person in the uniform but do you find the training and culture changed you in anyway? made you more suspicious generally? less tolerant? more appreciative of free time and relieved when you can go out in public on a day off and not have everyone staring at you?

just some wild guesses but?

The training and the job changes you in a big way, yes. It makes you more confident, more assertive and definitely less tolerant. But you gotta learn to turn that on and off, if someone's a reasonable person, I'll play nice. If they're not I won't.

The people looking at you thing you get used to pretty quickly. I always just look back...

I was born a suspicious person, I was like that well before the cops, and I'm extremely good at reading someone, even if they're an excellent liar, if there's something that just doesn't ad up, I won't let up until I'm satisfied. Some people can keep an absolute straight face and be extremely convincing on face value (lulz pun); but when you delve deeper, you begin to look past their bullshit and see right through them.

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