R32 vs R33? Pros and Cons

[XPL_Vspec]

I am looking at buying a skyline GTS-t. What should I get and why. I have found numerous r32's and r33's around the same price. Should I go for a 32 in top nick with mods or r33 with not so many mods?

need your input on handling, size, performance etc...

[yogi000]

Personally i like the R32, that why i bought one. The motor isnt as torqy as the r33's but still has enough power standard. Both engines are pretty easy to mod to get a fair few ponys.

The r33 has a few more safety features, ABS and Airbags which bring insurance down abit and has more leg room in the back for you and the missus

But i say R32.

[Chef_32]

if its your first performance car and you really don't have a favourite, then go the r33 for safety sake...

I really liked 32's and hadjust enough to buy one so the choice was made up financially. 33's just seem a bit too chunky for me, but they got mad engines...

just get what suits you

[pentae]

XPL, if you are SERIOUS about buying a car.. a post on this forum won't do.. too many conflicting opinions.

IF you are SERIOUS and want to put your money in the right spot for you do this.

Test drive the following cars in the Nissan performance family of that era:

- a stock r32 gtst

- a reasonably modded r32 gtst

- a stock r33 gtst

- a reasonably modded r33 gtst

- a stock 2 Litre Turbo Silvia

- a reasonably modded 2L Turbo Silvia

I dare say, because i've owned all these cars that the 2l turbo silvia is the fastest out of the three, but also the smallest. A bit more under the radar than skylines usually.

The 2 Litre turbo Silvia is a very light, fast, nimble handling car that is a fantastic boy racing machine. Not many people will respect it as much as the Skylines because of the bad stigma the lower 3 versions of this car has given it. (1.8 litre non turbo, 1.8 litre turbo, 2 litre non-turbo). Great to race with because 90% of the OTHER Silvias on the road suck in comparison, and everyone thinks they can beat you. Proving to them otherwise is a joyful experience. Everyone expects to get toasted when they line up against a skyline.

The r33 is good if you want lots of road respect, people staring at you as you drive past.. but it's quite heavy and handles not as well as the other two cars. This car is probably the top target for thieves and vandals.

The r32 is good if you want a mix of both worlds If you had to have a skyline this would be my choice.

[pentae]

Stock Power Figures:

Silvia SR20DET: 164kw

R32 Skyline: 160kw (manual) 152kw (auto)

R33 Skyline: 186kw

Weight:

Silvia: 1120kg

R32: 1480kg

R33: 1540kg

Stock Quarter Miles:

Silvia: 14.3

R32: 14.9

R33: 14.6

.. That's after a bit of research on the internet. Hope this helps.

[XPL_Vspec]

The chunky factor is a main con. I am looking to buy a car for the performance rather than street cred. ALthough skylines in general have plenty of street cred. I'd rather DRIVE the car than cruise down Chapel St with my arm out the window!

Thanx Pentae for the specs but most of these I new already, have been researching skylines for a long time. It is now time to buy one.

Am going to check out an r32 GTS4 (man), asking 15.5k, is the 4WD system the same as the GTR with single turbo?

[XPL_Vspec]

Pentae, conflicting opinions is just what i need. Different perspectives to balance my knowledge and experience.

I think the Silvias do get a bad rap but i am trying to steer clear of that 18yo boy toy P-plater stigma.

[AeroGrace]

Originally posted by XPL_Vspec

I'd rather DRIVE the car than cruise down Chapel St with my arm out the window!

good on you, people who do that should have their arms chopped off:D i guess most of them drive autos anyway....

On the subject of looks you'll find that it's all purely subjective.

it's funny that they say that the R33 is 'safer' with the ABS and airbags(both features which aren't standard)....i mean it's not as if i'm intending to crash it on the first day or anything.......but think of it as more of a bonus...not as a deciding factor:cool:

[Pekatu]

Man I just bought an R32 about 3weeks ago befor this i had and AUDI A4 quattro Turbo and before that a 2ltr 180sx, the, R32 is definatly me fav, it doesn't have the hard core tail out action the 180 had and it doesn't corner like the Audi but it is damn quick handles well and has heaps of features. My mate has a modded R33 and it is very nice as well, it all comes down to personal preferance!

[Kaliber]

About the silvia, what model are you talking about? s13-15?

[Hiroshima Screamer]

my sole opinion which might be not be worth much but i would be aiming to get GTS4 R32 with mods , mods cost money and heaps more if your the one pouring it on , unless you going to keep it std <---- thats a phase and we all know that feeling will pass

[pentae]

Kaliber: S13.

[GILTY]

R32 is my pick...nice quick, tail happy fun with good looks and street kudos to match!

I have not regretted purchasing my R32, and I could have bought a 33 but I liked the look of the 32 better plus the lower weight and less 'chuncky' look... BUT that is only for the GTST variant...if we are talking GTR, my favorite is the 33, but I would mod it with a genuine Kakimoto Wide Body kit and phat deep dish rime with 335 series rubber... mmmmmmm

[gts4]

Get the gts4 lol they are excellent fun had mine for 2 months

[zandi2000]

id go the 32gtst... yeh i might be a bit biased, but i test drove them all, my bro has a 33, and i love the 32 to bits! awesome car

[WazR32GTSt]

one thing i considered a major factor when deciding for my car is that he R33 is becoming the new commodore: everyone seems to have one - and that would really annoy me if i had one too.

so i bought an R32 (plus it is easier to park, smaller, lighter, i think it loos better, and goes just as well)

[zandi2000]

amen to that brother... its nice that alot of them are gettin crushed and wrecked in japan... it only makes them rarer!

[Gerby]

s13 silvia's only had 153 kw. The s14 jspec had about 164 though. I guess that is where you are getting confused?

i'm not saying the times that are posted are wrong, but since the net is a very unreliable source of information, I will post the other times that are also floating around.

s13 = 14.5 (this is the most common figure that I have found)

r33 = 14.37 (also a fairly common figure but not sure about its accuracy)

r32 = 15.1 (this seems a bit high, but I donno)

[pentae]

14.3 for a stock r33 is very optimistic

[dojobi]

Pentae, those times, weights and powers do seem a tad off.

The weight of the R33 GTS25t is between 1360kg and 1400kg depending on the options and the age of the car. Also, the power is 184kw (ok, it's 2kw difference )

Also, You may say that 14.3 is optimistic, but I've heard of 14.2s with totally stock cars.

If you want any stats on Skylines, go here - imports.motortraders.net - all their info seems to be spot on.

Cheers,

Michael