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Okay, let's play that game:

If we go with the 'what if Renault hadn't cheated?' scenario, if Massa had have received a drive-through penalty for driving off down pit lane with the fuel hose (like He should have); then adding the drive through time to the time lost by the pit crew retrieving the busted fuel hose from the car, there is no way He would have finished in the points anyway.

What's more (and worse for Ferrari fans), is that Hamilton started P2. First and second placed Alonso and Rosberg quite clearly benefited from Junior's shifty self-pwnage (they started 15th and 8th respectively). So if Lewis had have finished in P2, He would have collected 2 extra points (or possibly 4) for that race.

So loser-boy finishes the season at Interlagos 3 points (or possibly 5) behind Hamilton, rather than 1

But it still would have been at least 1 point any way you care to slice it :)

Now can all the bleeding-heart Massa fan-bois finally s.t.f.u about this? Probably not I'd suppose, but it'd just be ignorant of the facts to keep crapping on about it...

IF he got the drive thru for it tho, if not cos racing for Ferrari etc (threatens to leave sport and all that) then he would have won the championship. Anyway that's all old shit now but I thought I'd bring it up for fun. PLUS Lewis would have choked lol...

Alonso 2010 wdc? What do we think (IF Ferrari pull it together)

Will probably be their last year anyway. Do the kind of people that buy their cars new give a toss about their F1 program? Is 7 years worth of mediocre results anything to promote?

Unrelated, but looking forward to those ghey wheel covers finally being banned from next season.

Will probably be their last year anyway. Do the kind of people that buy their cars new give a toss about their F1 program? Is 7 years worth of mediocre results anything to promote?

Well its makes sense they have been making mediocre cars for the last 7 years

"They Race, They Learn, We Win"....... cos they cant :(

This alonso massa thing is going to end badly. Massa is trying to assert authority because the new boy is getting all the attention. The fez are already having to issue statements 'clarifying' idiotic outbursts

Too bad he's never won shit with which to compare himself against nando

little 2nd place trophy next to Alonso's two whopping great WDC muthas. ha

who knows what the future'll bring; but i reckon there's a good chance 2008 was as close as Massa will come to getting his hands on the main prize...

I thought you were in Sydney.

I am going off the formula1.com converter which says 3am sydney time and that is consistent with other years.

i just did some reading and it will be live on Ch10 and delayed on One HD.

So 2.45am is the go.

(quali on Ch 10 live at 3.55am sunday) delayed on One HD.

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