2009 F1 Season

[Roy]

lol..ah yes Count. Very good

[TALBO]

lol, I'm tim shaw. have I got a deal for you.... but wait... there's more.

F1. it's only 29,000,095 p/a. or just 52 easy payments of 576,000. plus P+H.

LOL! Where do I send payment?

[TALBO]

Having had a good look at the proposed regs for 2010 it seems there is going to be an incredible amount of differences between the teams that choose to use the budget cap and those that do not....... Unlimited number of engines (and no rev limit) for those 'capped' teams along with unlimited testing might be deal breakers for the 'uncapped' teams.... Should be very very interesting times...

[Marco-R34GTT]

Drool @no engine limit....

[sh@un]

Why can't they just leave my favourite sport alone?

These proposed 2010 regs just won't be workable; Can you imagine the whining and appeals that will result. God help us.

And no wukkas Bern: let's not choose drivers on merit- instead we'll just have the motorsport equivalent of communism where everyone gets a shot just to try and increase casual viewer appeal to make you even more Scrooge McDuck-like. So you want to pull in the 'black Jewish woman' crowd (???); but maybe a team should run with 80 year old Gladys from Bankstown- just think of the added worldwide pensioner market!

Dickhead.

[Marco-R34GTT]

Thanks man.... Well said..

[salad]

Budget capped teams to have double KERS power and allowed to 4wd

http://www.f1technical.net/news/12314

[TALBO]

I think they've taken this too far...... it's not really going to encourage teams to be outside of the budget cap imo....

[Roy]

It will ruin the racing with so many technical freedoms there is bound to be a dominant team with a big gap in lap times between the teams

[TALBO]

I'm thinking the same thing. To have access to the extra revs above 18K (in conjunction with unlimited engine usage) and double the KERS power alone should make these low budget teams competitive or even dominant.

[Marco-R34GTT]

Can't wait to see 20,000+rpm though...

However I agree with Montezemolo, F1 is ment to be the pinnacle of technological and engineering in motorsport, the absolute limit of racing... I think this approach is killing that..

[TALBO]

However I agree with Montezemolo, F1 is ment to be the pinnacle of technological and engineering in motorsport, the absolute limit of racing... I think this approach is killing that..

Definitely.

[Roy]

Next thing i read will be success ballast for teams that won the previous round

[TALBO]

It wouldn't f**kin' surprise me...LOL!

Just like changing the points system to stop a certain driver winning titles....

[Duncan]

yeah that is bullshit....over and over again in the last few years any team that does well has rules changed to stop them.

the real issue in f1 budgets is that Bernie and his nazi mate are milking the sport of every possible $$$, by asking very large fees to host each round. Traditional/developed markets can afford to say that it doesn't make business sense to host a round at this cost, and Bernie is happy to call their bluff and drop their traditional rounds (look at Spa, Nurburgring, mangy cors, san remo etc etc). Developing nations beleive that the cost of the round it worth it for the global exposure and sign up, no different to agreeing to host the olympics.

of course the problem then arrises for the team's existing sponsors.....not many of them are dying to reach developing markets in the sphincter of the universe, Bahrain,Signapore, Malaysia, China, UAE. Less races in relevent countries = less value to sponsors = less money for teams. Yes there are f1 fans in those countries, and some global consumers, but nothignc ompared to Europe, USA, Canada etc etc.

[Kinks]

I'm just enjoying F1 for there here and now, with so many talented young drivers and a shake-up of the rules it has really given some new teams a shot at the title. A lot of these gestures are pie in the sky notions and many of the things are just dick swinging, chest beating exercises because of the power play between Bernie and the teams. Eg Bernie says I want a salary cap and Ferrari says you're being ridiculous so Bernie says take your bat and ball and piss off if you don't like it. I think a salary cap would be bad for the sport but they're all just carrying on like a bunch of five year olds, if F1 goes down the toilet it'll be a sad day but I'll just find something else to watch.

[Roy]

yeah that is bullshit....over and over again in the last few years any team that does well has rules changed to stop them.

the real issue in f1 budgets is that Bernie and his nazi mate are milking the sport of every possible $$$, by asking very large fees to host each round. Traditional/developed markets can afford to say that it doesn't make business sense to host a round at this cost, and Bernie is happy to call their bluff and drop their traditional rounds (look at Spa, Nurburgring, mangy cors, san remo etc etc). Developing nations beleive that the cost of the round it worth it for the global exposure and sign up, no different to agreeing to host the olympics.

Not to mention the types of government in control of the new venues for F1. Hardly your typical democratic govts that have to answer to an electorate about how they spend govt money

[TALBO]

Bernie makes no secret of the fact that he's also willing to take more GP's out of Europe and go to the middle east and asia

[Kinks]

Yet he also bullies the Asian hosts (and us) to try and make the viewing time suitable for Europeans.

Hey Bernie hold the grand prix in Europe, then it's a non issue!

F**kwit. (but we all knew he was already).

[Marco-R34GTT]

Senile, self-infatuated twat... I HATE BERNIE!!!!