Fixing Camber At Rear

[08r3308]

as per topic i want to fix my camber at back as one of my tyres wears badly on inner side

car has coilovers and hicas lock bar that's about it for suspension moods

what do i need ...rear upper camber kit or what?

what brands to use?

i seen few on ebay quoting they are good quality , there's few on there ?

what about whiteline kits?

Edited April 2, 2009 by 08r3308

[MrStabby]

Wearing on only one side is odd - any thoughts on why its not both sides? Something damaged perhaps? What are your current alignment settings?

Usually when you lower the car you need to add adjustability, and the more you lower it the more adjustability you require.

[08r3308]

well more on one side but less on other, nothing is damaged had it checked out , i don't know my current setting so cant say

[mr_scary]

Yep, a whiteline rear camber kit will do the job - KCA347 is what you want.

How low is the car?

[08r3308]

r33 1994 model

that's just the bushes right?

what about the whole kit , so unbolt and put new in and get it aligned

[MrStabby]

If you're not lowered, just get an alignment.

If you are lowered, put the kit in first then get the alignment. For my low GTR i needed two kits, i guess they put one at each end of the upper control arm.

[ISC-Performance]

ISC Camber arms (complete replacement) = $159

I would be finding out why its only the one side though, any crash history?

Ryan

[08r3308]

no crash history as per previous post had that checked out and ruled that one out, well one side is more than other but both wear out on inside

can this be due to original bushes worn out , i think last aliment they maxed out stock bushes so cant be adjusted more

mr kotter is that with bushes only?

car is lowered and tyres do last few months (6-7) until i start noticing wear

isc how do complete kits compare to bush only?

i know bushes don't have as much alignment as full kits , but in terms on noise etc

[PIOTREK]

Hey mate honestly when u lower an 33 they all have camber!! so don't stress, Yes those kits help but not that much. You can just flip the tyre (wheels stays put and tyres rotate) so you get double the life.

I am really interest as to wat those kits cost, if anyone has but them in can you please post the price

[Wacky Dee]

I got the Bilsteins and caster and camber kits via SK's GB a while ago but I never had my camber after alignment given to me .. what's the best way to find out the current camber on front and back ?

According to SK I should have -1deg camber at the front and -0.5 at the back. My 34 is lowered about 2cm and is using stock springs with Bilsteins.

If I lower the car any further will it be impossible to have same camber without using an extra camber kit ?

[08r3308]

i think people are getting confused by using kit as in a whole arm and by just replacing bushes

p1otr if isc kits do go to 3+-(i read on few sites they do) in camber this will solve my issue and the tyre wear will be cut by heaps , i know all lowered cars will have camber and on r33 it gets expensive when you replace 19/265/30 due to camber wear

the bushes do not give that much adjustment imo so deltaforce is you lower any further just get the kit and be on safe side and not worry about it anymore even if you decide to go lower after that you know that camber adjustment will always be there

[Wacky Dee]

but if its $159 per camber arm, that's $640 for 4 + $400-500 in labour right ?

by the way, how much should I expect to pay to get my wheel geometry measured? I just want to know what my current camber is to see if the whiteline bushes that I have actually do anything

I had one of the whiteline bushes completely disintegrate on the front left wheel in less than 6 months ..but it was replaced since.

Edited April 3, 2009 by Delta Force

[08r3308]

$159 is for 2??? not sure have to check with isc , i will be getting only 2 in my case

group install ehe i don't think they would be hard to fit as i will be doing this myself and then just going to sus place to get it adjusted and wheel alignment done

[MrStabby]

mr kotter is that with bushes only?

Yeah bushes only.

I checked out the isc website - the arms he has are rose jointed, and AFAIK that means;

- excellent control

- increased NVH

- shorter life (ie years instead of decades you'd get with bushes, also there doesnt appear to be any dust covers which would help)

- illegal for street use

If you're concerned about rose joint life, use search - its been discussed here before.

If you're concerned about the legality ask Ryan directly to provide proof they're street legal - i could be wrong (and am interested to know for sure)

[08r3308]

interesting mr kotter and a good post, i have seen that just jap also sells some with rose joints that have rubber protectors in place.

so lets say a rose joint would last 2-3 yrs of daily driving or are we talking less?

another option might be bushes like you said but i dont think that will fix up my camber that much.

so whiteline come with one or 2 bushes or camber?

these can be diy or they have to be pressed?

[mr_scary]

The whiteline rear camber bushes gives +/- 0.75 deg of adjustment which should be enough unless your car is real low.

With these bushes you replace the inside bush of the control arm on each side, If you need more adjustment you can buy another kit and relace the outer bushes. (which givea total of +/- 1.5 deg)

Dunno about DIY, you could have a go at cutting the old bushes out. From memory there is a metal collar in the bush. I just took my control arms to pedders and got them to remove the old one and press the new one in. Didn't cost much, $30 i think...

[08r3308]

did you use whiteline kit?

does anyone have part number for this kit?

so basically if i want more camber adjustment i got to buy 2 of these kits ?

[mr_scary]

Yeah, I used whiteline. Part number is KCA347

SuperPro, Pedders and UAS make simllar bushes, so you don't have to use whiteline. Try shopping around for the best price.

Again, how much has your car been lowered? My car was 340mm wheel to guard (30mm lower than standard) at the rear and one camber kit got me from -1.5 to -0.5.

More than +/-0.75, but my old bushes were stuffed.

Btw, you replace the inner traction rod bushes on each side as well as th UCA's. So in total the kit comes with 4 bushes.

[Silver_GT]

while on topic, how much adjustment do the isc/jjr camber arms usually give?

[mr_scary]

while on topic, how much adjustment do the isc/jjr camber arms usually give?

According to their website, +/- 3 degrees