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Did anyone record tonight? What word for word did that tool say about how lots Torque means the Cayene go faster when its above 80kph?

May have gotten wrong, but isn't the abilty to pull off a line down to the Torque of a car, the Power is more readily associated with the overcoming of drag over time?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque

It's the ability to apply force, or in other words the amount of acceleration at a given instant (travel of a piston onto the crank, multiplied by the gearbox, diff, wheel size etc etc).

Power refers to average power or "the power put out by an engine is equal to the force it exerts times its velocity." So the average of torque over a particular range of velocity. Generally quoted as either through the gearbox (preferably in the 1:1 gear) and the rest of drivetrain as "at the wheels" or simply from the crank.

In real terms cars with higher average power have more torque over the entire range of useful revolutions. Comparing between different engines and especially different cars gets very messy when you factor in different strokes, gearboxes, diffs, wheels etc. There is also the consideration of useful torque, which is torque which isn't going to simply spin the wheels by overcoming the friction between the tyres and the ground.

All in all, any generalized comment about such matters is fairly meaningless :).

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Well I haven't heard the full statement, but as a general statement it is actually correct. The more torque an engine has, the more linearly it can sustain vehicle acceleration against variables such as drag. It is the reason large displacement engines (typically V8s) dominate in quartermile races. This is why I stop at 80km/h when I am taking on a V8...

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what about the toolish statement that even though the gtho did a lap time around the area of their reasonably priced car... it still goes to the top... typical bogan pride. makes me disrespect the show and the car even more.. i wouldnt mind seeing a dogfight between the gtho and a hakosuka.

190kw S20 vs 224kw 351

sure the 351 has 515nm... but it weighs 1524kg and is a boat, the GTR weighs just 1120.

and has a much better stance, and downright looks cranky... the gtho doesnt look special at all.

typical bogans... why couldnt the big guy leave michael jackson here and remove the bogans

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This is why I stop at 80km/h when I am taking on a V8...

Don't be scared a turbo 6 is more than a match for the majority of V8's just look at the xr6t vs the xr8 it regularly kicks it's bigger brothers teeth in.

what about the toolish statement that even though the gtho did a lap time around the area of their reasonably priced car... it still goes to the top... typical bogan pride. makes me disrespect the show and the car even more.. i wouldnt mind seeing a dogfight between the gtho and a hakosuka.

190kw S20 vs 224kw 351

sure the 351 has 515nm... but it weighs 1524kg and is a boat, the GTR weighs just 1120.

and has a much better stance, and downright looks cranky... the gtho doesnt look special at all.

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I always wondered what it would have happened if the KPGC10 GT-R and KPGC110 GT-R were raced at bathurst back in the day, probably just would have gotten Skylines banned from racing a little sooner I suspect

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The real WTF is that you made a thread about it.. everything ever said on that show is stupid!! Don't know why people watch it I can't stand it.

Yes it is a frustrating, painful show to watch

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Don't be scared a turbo 6 is more than a match for the majority of V8's just look at the xr6t vs the xr8 it regularly kicks it's bigger brothers teeth in.

Yes, but in that instance the turbo 6 has 4 litres of displacement to produce several hundred nm of torque, which is what makes the XR6T a good match for the XR8. I wouldn't wager my nearly standard R33 with thereabouts 300nm of torque against an XR8 across the quartermile...atleast not a BA XR8. I managed to hold off an AU XR8 with my 1JZ Soarer in a rolling drag, but they only have poverty pack 5L Windsors and my Soarer has atleast 360nm (stock) mated to a transmission that was born to overtake. Better off quitting while I'm ahead at 80km/h...

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Shouldn't be drag racing on the street anyway :)

Top Gear series 13 is out now, just started downloading it.

Top Gear Australia is shit.

I watched episode two and they have a race between the Veyron and a ..... crap eludes me for the moment. Excellent show. Ever wondered why when you search for top gear on you tube all you get is uk top gear?

There is one thing I like about OZ top gear and that is as follows.

Every episode they show on TV means that it is one more closer to being finished.

I think that it is ok to like OZ top geat for that reason and that reason alone.

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