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zebra Grand Master

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fkn lol.

245s are a tiny tyre for a 10.5" rim

How many circuit cars have you seen running 245s on a 10+" wide rim?

I agree that too much sidewall flex is bad...but id rather that than no side wall

Of course car enthusiasts give a shit about what the population thinks...you ever been to a car show?

Oh and have you actually seen my car...its hardly built for looks

nisskid Grand Master

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245s are a tiny tyre for a 10.5" rim

so? they are still fairly big for the car, so why does it matter how wide the rim is?

what rims are you running, brand, model, size, offset, and what tyres are you running, brand, model and size?

How many circuit cars have you seen running 245s on a 10+" wide rim?

how many circuit cars do u see on the road, or drifting, on a budget, running street tyres.

we dont drive circuit cars, u cant compare the 2, use ur head.

Of course car enthusiasts give a shit about what the population thinks...you ever been to a car show?

i think you're confusing car enthusiasts for another group of people who build cars. i build my car for myself, i enjoy getting compliments from other true car enthusiasts, but couldnt give a rats shit about the average joe off the street.

the way u described it was that "why would you do this to ur car for looks, if most people dont like the look of it", that's building ur car for others, not urself, and doesnt have a place in the car scene.

honestly id rather see anyone with that attitude sell their car and get away from the car scene.

zebra Grand Master

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I guess you dont care about all the extra unsprung mass the wider wheels have over a wheel more suited to the size of tyre.

WTF does it matter what my rims are. They are sized correctly for the tyres I use.

nisskid Grand Master

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I guess you dont care about all the extra unsprung mass the wider wheels have over a wheel more suited to the size of tyre.

WTF does it matter what my rims are. They are sized correctly for the tyres I use.

you own URAS NS-01's for christ sakes, u cant lecture me on unsprung weight :D

it matters every bit, here you are making broad claims that about others, u wanna be pretty bloody sure u can back them up with what uve done urself, and be willing to open urself up to criticism.

seriously, im the biggest advocate of quality wheels ull meet, but when it comes down to it, most people on this site setup's are so unrefined, a kg here and there of unsprung weight wouldnt mean shit for majority of what they use their cars for. especially at the expense of sidewall play and improved steering response.

aDrew_C Enthusiast

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Minor stretch is a great thing from my experience. I run 235/40 on my 18x8.5" up front, 245's would be a definite downgrade to cornering and on an 8" rim would be sloppy as fark just like a falcon... funny that seeing that's what falcons have on their 8" rims.

For a 10.5" 18" rim I would personally use a 265-285/35 depending on guard fitment and what's on the front.

NZM.031 Grand Master

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why oh why is this turning into another "stretching your tyres is wrong" thread. there are two sides to every coin.. i like stretch.. the more stretch the better.. i say. build a bridge, and lets band together and fight the real battle... which is cheap shitty chrome wheels.

and i dont care what the population thinks... my front bar is held together by cable ties, the rims are dirty and unpolished. the calipers are a mix of flaking red and brake dust black.... i have never been to car show and my car never will... it is out in the mountains doing what its built to do. not sitting pretty for people to look at. for what its built to do.. stretched tyres work better, look better and i like them more... what you think matters not.

not every car goes straight, round corners, or straight round corners.

and i thought at first bakes wheels were 11" rims to have a stretched 275, but they are definatly 19x9.5" with a +7 offset and stretched 275's.

zebra Grand Master

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i say. build a bridge, and lets band together and fight the real battle... which is cheap shitty chrome wheels.

Here Here!!!

My point with the unsprung mass, was i dont see the need to run a 10.5" wide rim if you are only going to use 245 tyres, If you like stretch run 9.5, I just feel (and this is only my opinon) that 245s are a little to stretched and id be worried about de-beading the tyres or damaging the rim if you hit a pot hole / ripple strip etc.

Sure my wheels arnt the bees knees, but they are about half the weight of the Drift-tek copies...and were cheaper...(go figure)

NZM.031 Grand Master

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worrying about unsprung mass is fine... but if you going to that sought of extreme... what is your body weight?? where are you seated and how heavy is your seat?? have you lowered the seat mounts and moved the seat back, extending the pedals and steering wheel?? where is your battery?? do you have a high mount or low mount turbo?? given that most of the extra weight in a 10.5" rim will be in the outer rim... it will be bugger all really. say it adds a 500g to 1kg per wheel... thats 2-4kg to the total unsprung weight... but it will be shared amoung all the wheels and wont make that much difference really... unless youve got alloy hubs, 2 piece rotors with alloy hats, alloy calipers, alloy suspension arms, and really good tyres that are already on the limit of their grip... 500g is hardly going to make a difference per corner.

what does a tyre weigh?? 10kg?... and a good quality light wheel 7kg??

im neither for or against the OP getting 10.5" rims... the fact that they are 19's is a bit of a worry, i dont think he is really into cornering or braking... maybe this thread and threads like this should be posted in cosmetic and styling because thats all it is.

nisskid Grand Master

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My point with the unsprung mass, was i dont see the need to run a 10.5" wide rim if you are only going to use 245 tyres

u dont, but plenty people do, a lot of people think a 10.5" wheel looks better, so they sacrafice a bit of unsprung weight, just like u sacraficed unsprung weight when u decided to buy NS-01's and not a proper lightweight wheel.

id be worried about de-beading the tyres or damaging the rim if you hit a pot hole / ripple strip etc.

have u ever seen a mildly stretched tyre de-bead? i know i havnt, and never had one de-bead myself.

as far as damaging the rim, that's why u buy quality strong wheels, it's the same issue with semi-slicks, hard sidewalls and high grip cause much more stress on the wheel than a street tyre.

Sure my wheels arnt the bees knees, but they are about half the weight of the Drift-tek copies...and were cheaper...(go figure)

wrong. ive owned NS-01's, and used drift teks before, they are similar weights (certainly not half the weight). URAS are a jap company but not a jap wheel manufacturer, they outsource their work (wouldnt suprise me if it's too similar taiwanese/korean/chinese manufacturers like used with Koya).

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