Braided Brake Lines

[Mr GTS4]

just want to see how many people are using them and if you have any pics of them..

THanks

Curt

[MyStag260]

and if they really make that much of a difference?

[chuckie]

G`day Lad`s & Lasses,i did brake upgrade on REAR`S with Braided line`s & Really couldn`t tell the Difference ,now i know that rear`s don`t do that much but iam not sure the Braided are worth the Money,Now really we should REPLACE front LINE`S as they are now some 10 year`s old ,so may be i will look but may be not Braided,& having done New sotted rotor`s & EBC pad`s & brake stopper i fell that there much better may be 35% better then stock setup sure FEEL much better,cheer`s chuckie.

[KiwiRS4T]

How to tell the difference:

Replace your brake fluid with quality new stuff and bleed the brakes. Find a quiet street and pick a lamp-post or other landmark. As near as possible hit the picks as hard as at as high a speed as you can safely (say 100). If you're keen measure the distance with a tape measure ...otherwise just make a mark on the kerb.

When you have fitted your braided brake lines and brake stopper repeat the test. If you are one or two meters earlier in stopping that is what you have paid for. It may not seem much but it may save a life or your car.

Other improvements such as bigger heat treated rotors etc are more geared towards sustained heavy use (although of course bigger brakes may improve your stopping distance a bit more) such as track work or if you tow a car and stand on the brakes a lot.

Short of the above I think the stock brakes with better pads, new and better brake fluid and maybe braided lines and a MC stopper are adequate for street use.

[StageaTypeS]

Also it is worth pointing out that actually stopping a car has alot to do with tyres not just the brakes. I do tend to agree with Chuckie I have done a R33 caliper swap F & R, new seals all around, EBC redstuff pads, Slotted rotors, UAS Brake stopper. When I stomp on the brakes the car pulls up bloody quick, I couldn't see you would want much more for street use. (Remember the street isn't a race track so unless you are doing considerable track work a track style setup is a waste of money, it does look nice though )

FYI, I have noticed that since changing wheels and tyres that it seems to pull up even quicker. My std rims were stock RS4S 17 x 7 with 215/50/17 tyres, I have changed to 19 x 8.5 rims with 235/35/19 tyres. The rims are an open 5 spoke style so they let alot more air in and around the brakes than the std rims did also the larger surface area on the road helps also I think.

[_Ryan_]

A good tyre and Pad is the best place too start in the quest for good stopping on a street car!!!

My Stagea with RE001's and RB74 front, Endless SSS rear easily stops better and with better feel than my 32 with KU36 and EBC Green Stuff - Front EBC Black Stuff - Rear, I wouldnt='t wish any EBC or Bendix pads on my worst enemy, next mod for the 32 is QFM A1RM which is meant to be the new version of the RB74 compound and available cheaply through the SAU sponser... Braided lines and MC stopper will be done further down the track on the 32, but seem pointless on the stagea as wouldnt we need to brace the ABS assembly?

[QWK32]

A good tyre and Pad is the best place too start in the quest for good stopping on a street car!!!

My Stagea with RE001's and RB74 front, Endless SSS rear easily stops better and with better feel than my 32 with KU36 and EBC Green Stuff - Front EBC Black Stuff - Rear, I wouldnt='t wish any EBC or Bendix pads on my worst enemy, next mod for the 32 is QFM A1RM which is meant to be the new version of the RB74 compound and available cheaply through the SAU sponser... Braided lines and MC stopper will be done further down the track on the 32, but seem pointless on the stagea as wouldnt we need to brace the ABS assembly?

i think the point of the brake MC stopper is to help stop firewall flex from when you push the brake pedal hard, so no need to brace the ABS.

[_Ryan_]

i think the point of the brake MC stopper is to help stop firewall flex from when you push the brake pedal hard, so no need to brace the ABS.

True, was just thinking it might move a little, not sure exactly how much it might move though.

Edited August 26, 2009 by RB_Ryan

[Mr GTS4]

yeah i wasn't really worried about the performance increase although it would be nice. just i'm doing the r33 calipers on it and don't want to mod the caliper to take the standard line, but after taking a set of standard from lines to my local brake specialist he has had them for about 2 weeks trying to work something out and can't. aparently one of the blocks he can't get.

so i was just looking to see what other people setups were and how they got around this problem.

just replacing the lines with bright shiny new ones would look nice with a great big brake upgrade

Thanks

Curt

[pyro-ns]

considering how many braided brake line setups fail ADR's, wouldn't it be better to just replace the standard lines with new standard lines?

[GoldZilla]

You can get ADR-approved ones too, by the way.

Braided lines are far from an essential upgrade, but they would provide an extra level of reassurance, just like the master cylinder stopper would.

[pyro-ns]

i know you can get adr approved ones, but to my understanding, they cost a bit more...

[Mr GTS4]

does anyone know where you can get adr approved ones from??

here is a pic of the setup on mine.

its teh last block that was causing troubles that goes from the top of the hub to the caliper.

[pyro-ns]

the first place that jumps out to me is Enzed. i can't remember if that's the place though... somewhere to start your search at least

[zei20l]

pirtek as well, but i dont think they are ADR compliant.

if you want, maltech. very good quality and will custom make if needs be. also see if nismo have a version

[iamhe77]

pirtek as well, but i dont think they are ADR compliant.

if you want, maltech. very good quality and will custom make if needs be. also see if nismo have a version

Nismo do, but they are not ADR compliant.

[zei20l]

i didnt have ADR compliant braided lines, the police didnt even notice them!

slotted rotors, master cylinder brace, braided lines, motul brake fluid and VERY good pads makes for an awesome stopping S15

eugene can confirm this

[BensDR30]

Maltech is the go.

Remember, if you have a stack and have non-ADR lines, you can probably kiss your insurance goodbye. Things like brakes tend to be inspected and taken into consideration more than an FMIC in a serious crash...

I bought ADR-approved braided lines for my Z from my local ABS - $75 per line. I simply took the old ones in & 3 hours later, the new ones were ready.

The Stagea is a bit more complicated than that if you wish to maintain the factory assembly design. But I'm sure you could simplify the factory setup & use a more generic line.

[Mr GTS4]

well thats the problem according to main roads you have to replace it as it came from factory.ie using all the same blocks and design. this is why my local brake guys couldn't do it as it would have been illegal.

i know there are guys on here running braided lines all i want is some pics to see how you have got around the problem.

THanks

Curt

[StageaTypeS]

I get so f*ing fed up with the australian ADR rules they are almost nonsensical to the point of being dangerous. You should be able to go into any brake specialist and get custom hoses made up and they should be able to certify that they are safe for use. That is what you go to a brake specialist for in the first place isn't it?