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People seem to forget that todays phones aren't phones, there's a full fledged OS back there and one if it's many programs makes calls, just like a computer, if you start filling it up with unofficial, unsupported, pirated crap then yes it's going to be unstable and run like shit, I see this on iPhone's all the time.

That being said, the last WM phone I used reminded me of vista, even on supported hardware ootb it ran like shit.

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My missus has a 3rd gen (i think) i phone, i like it a lot. Its never had any instability problems.

I had a cool ipod nano around a year ago, worked great for around 8 months. After it kept freezing and doing unusual shit. I'd do every kind of reset under the sun, software updates, the lot. ended up crushed in the vice in my shed, and I refused to fork out any of my earnings on an apple device again.

iTunes is f**king shit as well. Made my pc run like it was on valium... always with the bloody software updates. I kept letting it update, until one day i went and plugged in the nano (before the vice incident), and then it tells me the latest version of iTunes was too 'new' for my device, and wiped my library. f**k you apple. And to the not so literate PC user, go ahead with the updates and you'll end up with Safari, Bonjour and all sorts of other apple shit. I refuse to install iTunes on my new PC!

^^ lol itunes is a heap of shit software.....cant believe people still use it....apple is the most incompatible platform out there....

lol I gotta stick up for something I own, everything else I own gets paid out haha

I know the iPhone isn't perfect and isn't according to everyones taste, but that's life.

no is having a personal attack on you Dion....its the product....So in other words giving apple shit :P

iTunes does indeed suck and I'm not a huge fan of iPhones but OSX shits all over all MS Windows versions imo.

to a degree, osX is hugely locked down - its also based upon NeXTstep which is based upon a unix kernel

BeOS would have been a much better OS to put on the Mac but Jean Louis Gassee (ex Apple, Be Inc Founder) wanted too much money for it.

Jobs, who had left apple earlier to found NeXT did his own behind the door dealings with Gil Amelio so he could get back in - turns out he took Amelios job, turfed BeOS out the window and spent the next 5 years converting NeXTstep into a viable OS...

Windows 7 has come a long way and I'm pretty happy with it - only sometimes need to get to the command prompt which means their front end apps have matured enough for end user activities. That said, I like linux and BeOS more than the other OS's around these days

and for the geeks, if you're interested there's an open source BeOS clone, 100% api, source and binary compatible called Haiku...

www.haiku-os.org - u can even download the Alpha pre-release on a live cd and check it out - has been over 10 yrs in development, but its already more user friendly than the last 20 years of linux development - and this is a pervasively multithreaded OS that was designed to run on multiple CPU cores back when the only way to have more than one core was to physically mount 2 CPU northbridges on a single system and share the memory IO (Symmetric Multiprocessing aka SMP - used to have an MSI 694D Pro with two P3-800's back in the day when a P3-500 was considered ballsy... pity the chipset sucked...

-D

just think about all the skids you will be doing once its all done Craigy :P ......that should be motivational enough, shouldnt it?

well yes, but id really appreciated it if i got more than 66.4kms of sliding

for my efforts this time.

im off, time to go bust a knuckle and sware my head off

kthxbi

I've got an iPhone cause all the nokia I've had fallen to bits by buttons falling off, screens cracking, battery back cSing falling off. Also the software always f**ked up!

Bought a Sony Ericson and the software shit itself wit in a month of owning it.

iPhones the only phone that's lasted me the longest and I like the touch screen for typing and the easy Internet but I hate the stupid Bluetooth it has and hate the iTunes shit

I don't care about apple or microsoft shit I just want a phone that was as in distrustable as the old nokia 3215

to a degree, osX is hugely locked down - its also based upon NeXTstep which is based upon a unix kernel

BeOS would have been a much better OS to put on the Mac but Jean Louis Gassee (ex Apple, Be Inc Founder) wanted too much money for it.

Jobs, who had left apple earlier to found NeXT did his own behind the door dealings with Gil Amelio so he could get back in - turns out he took Amelios job, turfed BeOS out the window and spent the next 5 years converting NeXTstep into a viable OS...

Windows 7 has come a long way and I'm pretty happy with it - only sometimes need to get to the command prompt which means their front end apps have matured enough for end user activities. That said, I like linux and BeOS more than the other OS's around these days

and for the geeks, if you're interested there's an open source BeOS clone, 100% api, source and binary compatible called Haiku...

www.haiku-os.org - u can even download the Alpha pre-release on a live cd and check it out - has been over 10 yrs in development, but its already more user friendly than the last 20 years of linux development - and this is a pervasively multithreaded OS that was designed to run on multiple CPU cores back when the only way to have more than one core was to physically mount 2 CPU northbridges on a single system and share the memory IO (Symmetric Multiprocessing aka SMP - used to have an MSI 694D Pro with two P3-800's back in the day when a P3-500 was considered ballsy... pity the chipset sucked...

-D

Win 7 is a vast improvement over Vista but unfortunately it not will run Logic Pro and frankly Pro Tools LE runs more stable and faster on OSX and this is on the same machine. I rarely run PT LE from Windows anymore for this reason.

Win 7 is a vast improvement over Vista but unfortunately it not will run Logic Pro and frankly Pro Tools LE runs more stable and faster on OSX and this is on the same machine. I rarely run PT LE from Windows anymore for this reason.

Ahh true, apple pretty much has a monopoly when it comes to audio hardware and apps - mainly due to MS re-inventing the wheel (drivers) each time.

I used to have a C-port DSP24 (CPort 2000) which only had ASIO drivers for Win2k. Was great until I tried to install it on vista. Didn't like it. Eventually someone hacked the drivers to work under XP but they certainly don't run under Win7 - which is great, a $1000 soundcard that doesnt work because the manufacturers are too pov to write new drivers...

-D

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